On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Chris Solomon wrote:

> Hello-
> 
> I'm trying to do some repeated measures ANOVAs. In the past, using SAS,
> I have used the framework outlined in Littell et al.'s "SAS System for
> Mixed Models", using the REPEATED statement in PROC MIXED to model
> variation across time within an experimental unit. SAS allows you to
> specify different within-unit covariance structures (e.g., compound
> symmetric, AR(1), etc.) to determine the best model.
> 
> I'm having trouble figuring out how to do a similar analysis in R. While
> 'lme' will let you choose the class of correlation structure to use, it
> seems to require that you specify this structure rather than using the
> data to estimate the covariance matrix. For example, it seems that to
> specify 'corAR1' as the correlation structure, you have to pick a value
> for rho, the autoregressive parameter.

Why does `it seems'? Your information is incorrect.

> So, my question: is there a way to tell 'lme' what sort of covariance
> structure you'd like to model, and then let the function estimate the
> covariances? 

That is the default.  Take a look at the examples in Venables & Ripley or 
Pinheiro & Bates (as recommended in the posting guide and the FAQ).

> Or, alternatively, is there a better way to go about this
> sort of repeated measures analysis in R? I've exhausted my available R
> resources and done a pretty good search of the help archives without
> finding a clear answer.

Did you look at the references in the FAQ?

> Chris Solomon
> Center for Limnology
> Univ. of Wisconsin

You do know where the maintainer of the nlme package works, don't you?
I am sure your University library has a copy or two of Pinheiro & Bates!

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