Shame I can not get hold of Hsu, J. C. and M. Peruggia (1994) just now. I am quite curious to see what their graphs look like. Would you be able to give an example in R.....? ;-)

The graph I put forward is typically used by ecologists to summarize data. It comes down to a simple means plot with error bars. Significant differences of multiple comparisons are then added using the letters a, b, c etc. If two bars have the same letter, they are not significantly different. It can become quite complicated when mean one is different from mean three but not from mean two and mean two is different from mean three but not mean one. You then get: a, ab, c for mean one, two and three respectively.

Of course what is often used does not constitute the best way of doing it.

Sander.



Liaw, Andy wrote:
From: Sander Oom

Hi Chris and Chris,

I was keeping my eye on this thread as I have also been discovering multiple comparisons recently. Your instructions are very clear! Thanks.

One thing to note, though: Multcomp does not do Dunnett's or Tukey's multiple comparisons per se. Those names in multcomp refer to the contrasts being used (comparison to a control for Dunnett and all pairwise comparison for Tukey). The actual methods used are as described in the references of the help
pages.


Now I would love to see an R boffin write a nifty function to produce a graphical representation of the multiple comparison, like this one:

http://www.theses.ulaval.ca/2003/21026/21026024.jpg

Should not be too difficult.....[any one up for the challenge?]

I beg to differ: That's probably as bad a way as one can use to graphically show multiple comparison. The shaded bars serve no purpose.


Two alternatives that I'm aware of are

- Multiple comparison circles, due to John Sall, and not surprisingly, implemented in JMP and SAS/Insight. See:
http://support.sas.com/documentation/onlinedoc/v7/whatsnew/insight/sect4.htm



- The mean-mean display proposed by Hsu and Peruggia:
Hsu, J. C. and M. Peruggia (1994). Graphical representations of Tukey's multiple comparison method.
Journal of Computational and Graphical Statistics 3, 143{161


Andy
I came across more multiple comparison info here;

http://www.agr.kuleuven.ac.be/vakken/statisticsbyR/ANOVAbyRr/m
ultiplecomp.htm

Cheers,

Sander.

Christoph Buser wrote:
Dear Christoph

You can use the multcomp package. Please have a look at the
following example:

library(multcomp)

The first two lines were already proposed by Erin Hodgess:

summary(fm1 <- aov(breaks ~ wool + tension, data = warpbreaks))
TukeyHSD(fm1, "tension", ordered = TRUE)

   Tukey multiple comparisons of means
   95% family-wise confidence level
   factor levels have been ordered

Fit: aov(formula = breaks ~ wool + tension, data = warpbreaks)

$tension
        diff        lwr      upr
M-H  4.722222 -4.6311985 14.07564
L-H 14.722222  5.3688015 24.07564
L-M 10.000000  0.6465793 19.35342


By using the functions simtest or simint you can get the p-values, too:

summary(simtest(breaks ~ wool + tension, data = warpbreaks,
whichf="tension",
       type = "Tukey"))

Simultaneous tests: Tukey contrasts

Call: simtest.formula(formula = breaks ~ wool + tension, data =
warpbreaks,
   whichf = "tension", type = "Tukey")

Tukey contrasts for factor tension, covariable: wool

Contrast matrix:
                     tensionL tensionM tensionH
tensionM-tensionL 0 0       -1        1        0
tensionH-tensionL 0 0       -1        0        1
tensionH-tensionM 0 0        0       -1        1


Absolute Error Tolerance: 0.001


Coefficients:
                 Estimate t value Std.Err. p raw p Bonf p adj
tensionH-tensionL  -14.722  -3.802    3.872 0.000  0.001 0.001
tensionM-tensionL  -10.000  -2.582    3.872 0.013  0.026 0.024
tensionH-tensionM   -4.722  -1.219    3.872 0.228  0.228 0.228



or if you prefer to get the confidence intervals, too, you can
use:

summary(simint(breaks ~ wool + tension, data = warpbreaks,
whichf="tension",
       type = "Tukey"))

        Simultaneous 95% confidence intervals: Tukey contrasts

Call: simint.formula(formula = breaks ~ wool + tension, data =
warpbreaks,
   whichf = "tension", type = "Tukey")

Tukey contrasts for factor tension, covariable: wool

Contrast matrix:
                     tensionL tensionM tensionH
tensionM-tensionL 0 0       -1        1        0
tensionH-tensionL 0 0       -1        0        1
tensionH-tensionM 0 0        0       -1        1

Absolute Error Tolerance: 0.001

95 % quantile: 2.415

Coefficients:
Estimate 2.5 % 97.5 % t value Std.Err.
p raw p Bonf p adj
tensionM-tensionL -10.000 -19.352 -0.648 -2.582 3.872
0.013 0.038 0.034
tensionH-tensionL -14.722 -24.074 -5.370 -3.802 3.872
0.000 0.001 0.001
tensionH-tensionM -4.722 -14.074 4.630 -1.219 3.872
0.228 0.685 0.447
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Please be careful: The resulting confidence intervals in
simint are not associated with the p-values from 'simtest' as it
is described in the help page of the two functions.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

I had not the time to check the differences in the function or
read the references given on the help page.
If you are interested in the function you can check those to
find out which one you prefer.

Best regards,

Christoph Buser

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Christoph Strehblow writes:
> hi list,
> > i have to ask you again, having tried and searched for
several days...
> > i want to do a TukeyHSD after an Anova, and want to get
the adjusted
> p-values after the Tukey Correction.
> i found the p.adjust function, but it can only correct
for "holm",
> "hochberg", bonferroni", but not "Tukey".
> > Is it not possbile to get adjusted p-values after
Tukey-correction?
> > sorry, if this is an often-answered-question, but i
didnīt find it on
> the list archive...
> > thx a lot, list, Chris
> > > Christoph Strehblow, MD
> Department of Rheumatology, Diabetes and Endocrinology
> Wilhelminenspital, Vienna, Austria
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