PS, the equivalent for a glm is:

> sum.modeltest <- summary(modeltest)
> sum.modeltest$dispersion

Hope this helps.

On 11/09/06, Toby Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I am needing to extract the estimate of overdispersion (deviance / residual 
> degrees of freedom or c-hat) from multiple model objects - so they can then 
> be used to compare the extent of overdispersion among alternative models as 
> well as calculate qausi-AIC values.  I have been unable to do this, despite 
> consulting a number of manuals and searching the R-help.  I am imaging that 
> in theory it should be possible with some call to attr(), but i have so far 
> had no success.
>
> An example model output would be:
>
> > modeltest<-lmer(Coleodactylus_amazonicus_N~USD + 
> > (1|site),data=SFArray,family=poisson,method="Laplace",control=list(usePQL=FALSE,
> >  msVerbose=TRUE))
> > summary(modeltest)
>
> ------------
>
> Generalized linear mixed model fit using Laplace
> Formula: Coleodactylus_amazonicus_N ~ USD + (1 | site)
>    Data: SFArray
>  Family: poisson(log link)
>       AIC      BIC    logLik deviance
>  75.94996 81.68603 -34.97498 69.94996
> Random effects:
>  Groups Name        Variance Std.Dev.
>  site   (Intercept) 2.6076   1.6148
> number of obs: 50, groups: site, 5
>
> Estimated scale (compare to 1)  1.080798
>
> ------------
>
> What I need is to extract this value (1.080798) from multiple lmer objects.  
> Has anyone any recommendations? I also need to do this for glm objects 
> although I suspect if someone was able to kindly point me in the right 
> direction then the solution is likely to be similar.
>
> Very many thanks,
>
> Toby Gardner
>
> > sessionInfo()
> Version 2.3.1 (2006-06-01)
> i386-pc-mingw32
>
> attached base packages:
> [1] "datasets"  "graphics"  "grDevices" "methods"   "stats"     "utils"     
> "base"
>
> other attached packages:
>        JGR     iplots     JavaGD       lme4     Matrix    lattice       MASS  
>     rJava
>    "1.4-7"    "1.0-3"    "0.3-4"  "0.995-2" "0.995-15"   "0.13-8" "7.2-27.1"  
>   "0.4-6"
>
>
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> Norwich, NR4 7TJ
> United Kingdom
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