As I understand this, P(T+ | D-)=1-P(T+ | D+)=0.05 is the probability not to detect desease for a person at ICU who has the desease. Correct?
What I asked was whether it is possible to mistakenly detect the desease for a person who does not have it? Assuming that this is impossible the formula is below: If there are N patients, each has a probability p to have the desease (p=0.6 in your case) and q is the probability to detect the desease for a person who has it (q = 0.95 for ICU and q = 0.8 for a regular unit), then P(k have the desease AND m are detected) = P(k have the desease)*P(m are detected / k have the desease) = C(N,k)*p^k*(1-p)^(N-k)*C(k,m)*q^m*(1-q)^(k-m) where C(a,b) is the Binomial coefficient "a above b" - the number of ways to choose b items out of a (when the order does not matter). You of course must assume that N >= k >= m >= 0 (otherwise the probability is 0). To generate such pairs (k infected and m detected) you can do the following: k <- rbinom(N,1,p) m <- rbinom(k,1,q) Regards, Moshe. --- sigalit mangut-leiba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > The probability of false detection is: P(T+ | > D-)=1-P(T+ | D+)=0.05. > and I want to find the joint probability > P(T+,D+)=P(T+|D+)*P(D+) > Thank you for your reply, > Sigalit. > > > On 8/13/07, Moshe Olshansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Sigalit, > > > > Do you want to find the probability P(T+ = t AND > D+ = > > d) for all the combinations of t and d (for ICU > and > > Reg.)? > > Is the probability of false detection (when there > is > > no disease) always 0? > > > > Regards, > > > > Moshe. > > > > --- sigalit mangut-leiba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > hello, > > > I asked about this simulation a few days ago, > but > > > still i can't get what i > > > need. > > > I have 2 units: icu and regular. from icu I want > to > > > take 200 observations > > > from binomial distribution, when probability for > > > disease is: p=0.6. > > > from regular I want to take 300 observation with > the > > > same probability: p=0.6 > > > . > > > the distribution to detect disease when disease > > > occurred- *for someone from > > > icu* - is: p(T+ | D+)=0.95. > > > the distribution to detect disease when disease > > > occurred- *for someone from > > > reg.unit* - is: p(T+ | D+)=0.8. > > > I want to compute the joint distribution for > each > > > unit: p(T+,D+) for icu, > > > and the same for reg. > > > I tried: > > > > > > pdeti <- 0 > > > > > > pdetr <- 0 > > > > > > picu <- pdeti*.6 > > > > > > preg <- pdetr*.6 > > > > > > dept <- c("icu","reg") > > > > > > icu <- rbinom(200, 1, .6) > > > > > > reg <- rbinom(300, 1, .6) > > > > > > for(i in 1:300) { > > > > > > if(dept=="icu") pdeti==0.95 > > > > > > if (dept=="reg") pdetr==0.80 > > > > > > } > > > > > > print(picu) > > > > > > print(preg) > > > > > > and got 50 warnings: > > > > > > the condition has length > 1 and only the first > > > element will be used in: if > > > (dept == "icu") pdeti == 0.95 > > > the condition has length > 1 and only the first > > > element will be used in: if > > > (dept == "reg") pdetr == 0.8 > > > > > > I would appreciate any suggestions, > > > > > > thank you, > > > > > > Sigalit. > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > > > reproducible code. > > > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.