-Andrew
On 12/4/2023 5:11 PM, Uwe Ligges wrote:
Thanks for your offer to providing us with capable multicore servers and support staff for continuing support of recent Fedora systems.Best, Uwe Ligges On 04.12.2023 18:09, andrew--- via R-package-devel wrote:I do think that its a reasonable ask that the test machines be running operating systems within their vendor support periods.-Andrew Robbins ________________________________From: R-package-devel <r-package-devel-boun...@r-project.org> on behalf of Josiah Parry <josiah.pa...@gmail.com>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 11:34 AM To: Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com> Cc: R Package Development <r-package-devel@r-project.org> Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] Update timing of machines on CRAN? Unfortunately, it is often important for us to pay attention to what machines our code is being tested on. I think the point is more or less that we often find ourselves trying to make super small adjustments for machines and builds that are used by a number of users in the single digits. The vast majority of R programmers are not on these arcane machines. We should strive to support the vast majority of users who use *fairly* standard distributions such as Mac, Windows, Ubuntu, Debian, and maybe even Centos. Getting a note for a release which has reach EOL can be confusing and tough to know how to handle.On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:17 AM Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com>wrote:On 12/4/23 15:44, SHIMA Tatsuya wrote:Thanks for your answer. Unlike Windows Server, which has a long support period, Fedora's support period is usually about one year, so it is surprising that the old Fedora continues to be used. And, unlike Windows, Linux uses the distribution standard packages for builds, which causes problems like the current Fedora machine that continues to use the old Rust.The configuration currently at different CRAN machines is just a sample of what your users might have, just an example of a setting packagesshould be able to deal with. Some users might also still have FC36, somemight have another Linux distribution (possibly still supported), which has older software than that. I wouldn't recommend spending time tracking which version of which software CRAN systems currently happen to have, but rather making sure packages can deal with different versions (possibly with some in a restricted way, possibly making some hard requirements when necessary). Best TomasHope to see an update soon. Thanks to the staff for maintaining the infrastructure. Best, Tatsuya On 2023/12/01 23:43, Uwe Ligges wrote:On 01.12.2023 13:28, SHIMA Tatsuya wrote:Hi, I maintain the prqlr package that uses rustc for compiling, so I regularly check the version of Rust on CRAN. And I have noticed that the Rust version of Fedora has been stagnant for the past few months and was wondering why, but upon investigation I realized that this is because Fedora on CRAN is currently Fedora 36 (out of support in May). <https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_flavors.html> It was quite a surprise to me that out of support Fedora is being used, but what is the normal cycle for machines on CRAN to be updated? And do we have any way of knowing that schedule?It depends on the maintainer who cares about these machine, the institution where it is hosted, the availability of technical staff, and the technical pressure. I could not even say when the machines I maintain will be updated. On one version of the retired winbuilder severs we kept the same OS version for almost 10 years. Best, Uwe LiggesBest, Tatsuya ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel[[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel
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