Dear list,

I am kind of new to R. I want to fit the nonlinear Morgan-Mercer-Flodin (MMF) 
growth model in a species accumulation curve (SAC) run with vegan package in 
.R.  I would very much appreciate if you could give some feedback. My first 
question is what's the best approach i) grofit package or ii) nls2

i) This is what I am doing for grofit:

install.packages(grofit) # install grofit

library(grofit)
library(vegan)
library(nls2) #loads grofit, vegan and nls2 libraries


SAC.data<-read.table(file=file.choose(),header=TRUE,sep=",") # choose from 
directory

SAC.data # shows data

samples <- SAC.data$Samples #generates samples data

richness <- SAC.data$richness #generates richness data

TestRun <-grofit(samples, richness, TRUE) #runs the program for Gompertz 
function

##it's not working. I get this warning: Error in if ((dim(time)[1]) != 
(dim(data)[1])) stop("gcFit: Different number of datasets in data and time") :
  argument is of length zero##



  ##Can't go further and add the MMF model##



ii) other approach:

SAC<-read.table(file=file.choose(),header=TRUE,sep=",") #choose from directory
UGE<-specaccum(SAC,method="exact",permutations=1000)
MMF.formula<-function(a1,b1,c1,d1,x){
+
(a1*b1+c1*x^d1)/(b1+x^d1)
+
} ## shorthand for creating model formula

MMF.formula # shows formula

MMF.fit<-nls(richness~MMF.formula(a,b,c,d,samples),data=UGE,start=list(a=-2,b=3,c=50,d=0.5),trace=TRUE)
  # MMF fitted model

##not working. Get this message: Error in nls(richness ~ MMF.formula(a, b, c, 
d, samples), data = SAC.data,  :
  step factor 0.000488281 reduced below 'minFactor' of 0.000976562## starting 
values were just guesses##



any help would be appreciated

cheers

João

João Canning Clode, Ph.D
Postdoctoral Fellow
Marine Invasions Research Lab
Smithsonian Environmental Research Center
647 Contees Wharf Road
Edgewater, MD 21037

Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Web: www.canning-clode.com<http://www.canning-clode.com/>



On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Falk Hildebrand wrote:

Dear list,
I have been using the vegan package to do mds via the metaMDS function, but I 
have some questions regarding the output.
1) First off about the rankindex function {vegan}: On my data I always get 
values that I would consider as low, e.g. something in the range of 0.0344 as 
best result (euclidean) and the mean being 0.028 over 7 other metrices. Do 
results as low as this have any relevance? Are there some guidelines as to what 
absolute (or relative) values one should at least obtain to make a distinction?
2) Is there a way to estimate what percentage of the variation within the data 
can be explained by the mds?
3) using envfit {vegan} I get significant p-values for 5 out of 14 env. 
variables/factors (which is of course very nice). However, if I do a CCA and a 
ANOVA (call: anova(cca,by="terms",permu=200)) with the same environmental 
values, usually only one of these same variables/factors ends up being 
significant. I am aware that these are different techniques, but I always 
thought that CCA was supposed to "force" the ordination on the env. vars, so 
why then would I get much better p-values for the unconstrained nmds (I use 5 
dimensions in the nmds)?

4) how can I interpret the relation between species and the environmental fit 
in a nmds plot call? The same as sites and env. fit?
e.g.
ef=envfit(nmds,environment)
plot(ef); points(nmds, dis = "species");

Any help or links to relevant literature would be greatly appreciated.
best,
Falk



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