Ted wrote -- > Based on zillions of BM simulations we have done with DOS PDSIMUL, > you should never see a shift in mean value (versus starting value > at root of tree), unless you are intentionally modeling a trend. > Something must be wrong.
in response to Dean Adams: >> For these simulations I generate a tree (in this > case a >> perfectly-balanced tree) and simulate 100 data sets on the same >> phylogeny using a particular initial BM rate parameter (sigma). ... >> However, the most curious finding is that for all methods, as sigma >> increases, so too does the mean trait value across the tips (and > the >> converse occurs as sigma decreases). This observation is curious to > me, >> as one should not see a predictable shift in the mean under > Brownian >> motion. Is it possible that the simulation is doing Brownian Motion on some other scale, such as a log scale? If one does BM on the logs and then looks at the original phenotype scale, you *would* expect that as the variance among species increases, so does the mean of the species means. Joe ---- Joe Felsenstein j...@gs.washington.edu Dept of Genome Sciences and Dept of Biology, Univ. of Washington, Box 5065, Seattle Wa 98195-5065 [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ R-sig-phylo mailing list R-sig-phylo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-phylo