Great! Thanks for all the help!

Lindsey

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 9:33 AM Liam J. Revell <liam.rev...@umb.edu> wrote:

> Dear Lindsey.
>
> You should not adjust tol at all -- use the default. Sorry I wasn't clear
> on that. It is just an (arbitrarily) small value that helps us avoid
> evaluating solutions that are not "legal." (E.g., in your case, trying to
> attach a tip to an edge *below* its parent node.)
>
> All the best, Liam
> Liam J. Revell
> Professor of Biology, University of Massachusetts Boston
> Web: http://faculty.umb.edu/liam.revell/
>
>
> On 1/11/2023 7:58 AM, Lindsey Dehaan wrote:
>
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> Hey Liam,
>
> Thanks alot! I really appreciate it! I installed the new version and I saw
> your edits to the locate.fossil function on github.
>
> I just have one more question, I am new to the tol argument and I am not
> sure what the default should be set to. I've set it to a couple numbers
> (ex, 0.5, 0.1 0.01) and my fossil now places correctly but could you
> possibly tell me what this argument means and what I should be setting it
> to?
>
> Best,
> Lindsey
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:07 PM Liam J. Revell <liam.rev...@umb.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Lindsey.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the code & data. It made the problem pretty easy to
>> resolve.
>>
>> Turns out it is a simple numerical precision issue.
>>
>> I have resolved it by adding an optional argument tol with a sensible
>> default value which most users can probably ignore (but can set to tol=0
>> if they want to guarantee the current behavior of locate.fossil). I
>> pushed this update to *GitHub*:
>> https://github.com/liamrevell/phytools/commit/f1dcddbf56a7ae6bf9bece223cd6a949a57eac5f
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>>
>> To obtain this updated version of *phytools* I recommend installing the
>> package *remotes* and then running (from a fresh R session):
>>
>> remotes::install_github("liamrevell/phytools")
>>
>> Let us know if this fixes everything!
>>
>> All the best, Liam
>> Liam J. Revell
>> Professor of Biology, University of Massachusetts Boston
>> Web: http://faculty.umb.edu/liam.revell/
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>> On 1/10/2023 4:42 PM, Lindsey Dehaan wrote:
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>> Hey Liam,
>>
>> Thanks for the fast response.
>>
>> Attached is a simple script with the fossil I am having problems with.
>> All the files should be attached. Let me know if I missed a file or you
>> need anything else.
>>
>> I greatly appreciate your help on this. I have been stuck on this for a
>> while now.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lindsey
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 4:23 PM Liam J. Revell <liam.rev...@umb.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Lindsey.
>>>
>>> Thanks for posting your code, but would you mind sending me (it can be
>>> off-list) an example in which I can also pull your data & tree and re-run
>>> it with the real data that is generating the error? This might be helpful
>>> in getting to the bottom of your issue. Thanks!
>>>
>>> All the best, Liam
>>> Liam J. Revell
>>> Professor of Biology, University of Massachusetts Boston
>>> Web: http://faculty.umb.edu/liam.revell/
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>>>
>>> On 1/10/2023 4:20 PM, Lindsey Dehaan wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a question regarding the phytools function locate.fossil().
>>>
>>> I have had a lot of success with this function but there are two fossils of
>>> mine that the function does not like. I give the function my phylogeny, a
>>> max and min age for the fossil, and the edge for the fossil to be placed
>>> on. So I basically just want the function to estimate the branch length
>>> subtending the fossil and the position of where the node subtending the
>>> fossil attaches in the phylogeny.
>>>
>>> For two of my fossils I get the following error.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Error in bind.tree(tree, tip, where = where, position = pp) :   'position'
>>> is larger than the branch length*
>>>
>>> The function does not seem to like my edge constraint with these two
>>> fossils. When I remove my edge constraint it works and the fossil is placed
>>> in the correct time interval but just on a different edge estimated using
>>> ML. For one of my fossils, the edge I place my fossil on ranges from 42 mya
>>> to 4 mya and the age range for the fossil is between 33 and 28 mya. I am
>>> confused why the function does not like the edge constraints I am giving
>>> it. The error that I receive makes me believe that the position the
>>> function is estimating for my fossil may be older than the edge constraint
>>> I am giving it or I could just be missing something, most likely the
>>> latter...
>>>
>>> Below is my code. This code works for almost all my fossils except for two
>>> of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *fossil_to_add<-fossil_trait_data[13,] 
>>> locate_fossil_data<-rbind(extant_data,
>>> fossil_to_add) # used this data in
>>> locate.fossil()extant_sister_clade<-rownames(extant_data)[c(grep(fossil_info[13,7],
>>> rownames(extant_data)), grep(fossil_info[13,8],
>>> rownames(extant_data)))]mrca<-getMRCA(tree,
>>> extant_sister_clade)edge<-mrcamin_time<- depth - fossil_info[13,4] # depth
>>> is the root age of the phylogeny max_time<-depth - fossil_info[13,3] # the
>>> max and min ages are positive numbers time_constraints<-c(max_time,
>>> min_time)locate_fossil_tree<-locate.fossil(tree, locate_fossil_data,
>>> time.constraint=time_constraints,edge.constraint=edge, plot=TRUE)*
>>>
>>> Any help or advice, would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lindsey
>>> --
>>> Lindsey DeHaan
>>> Ph.D. Candidate
>>> Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences
>>> University of Michigan
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>> Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences
>> University of Michigan
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>>
>
> --
> Lindsey DeHaan
> Ph.D. Candidate
> Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences
> University of Michigan
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Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences
University of Michigan

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