Apologies for chiming in a little late here. I have to say I am (and have been 
for a while) in favor of moving the course announcements out of this mailing 
list into a channel of its own. The main reasons in my mind include the 
following:

- Having a separate channel for course announcements seems to be the common 
mechanism for distribution lists with a wide reach (case in point for our field 
is evoldir). This seems to work well – people interested in receiving these 
announcements opt in, everybody else doesn’t need to take (and validate, check, 
monitor etc) specific action.

- Science has become and will continue to become more interdisciplinary, more 
so than ever in the age of data deluges and AI/ML. This can make it difficult 
to draw a good line between courses that are and those that aren’t pertinent to 
this community. And across this community, we’d probably choose different lines.

- It’s a little hard to say right now whether the diminishing frequency of 
on-topic Q&A-style threads is a reaction to course announcements taking over 
more and more and arguably most of the traffic, or an independent trend 
reflecting something else. In the past, we have used frequency of posts as 
evidence supporting the list’s value and usefulness. I still consider this very 
valuable information to have – if this kind of forum is becoming or is much 
less useful than it was in the past, we should be able to see this from the 
list traffic, ideally unencumbered by confounding factors. Perhaps chatbots can 
now utilize the information from the list archives (which are public) well 
enough that most questions get answered this way rather than reaching the list 
as a post.

  -hilmar

On Aug 21, 2025, at 11:14 AM, Oliver Hooker <[email protected]> 
wrote:

That’s a really good idea Dave, a general list titled R-sig-courses.

I’ll look in to the idea further and see how easy they are to set up and
get back to you all.

Best,

Oliver


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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 at 16:12, David Swofford 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

Why not just create a new list "R-sig-phylo-courses" (or just
"R-sig-courses"). By default, the new list would contain all current
R-sig-phylo users, but it would be a simple opt-out for those who didn't
want to receive the course announcements.

Dave

On Aug 21, 2025, at 9:13 AM, Oliver Hooker <
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi list members,

Firstly, please accept my apologies for unintentionally misusing the list
and for any inconvenience or annoyance this may have caused. This was
never
my intention, and I appreciate it being brought to my attention.

Moving forward, I will ensure that I only post courses directly related
to
phylogenetics. The same applies to the genetics list.

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for handling this
matter so diplomatically.

Thanks again, and best wishes,
Oliver

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 at 07:06, Vojtěch Zeisek <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear colleagues,
I manually add Oliver Hooker <[email protected]> and <
[email protected]> (send by Carlo Pecoraro) to the
conversation.
Especially Oliver, would You like please read full conversation <
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06123.html<https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06123.html>>
and
kindly *stop* sending advertisement which - as You can see - is not very
welcomed anymore, if I may say so? The same applies for the
[R-sig-genetics] mailing list as well. Otherwise I'd like to kindly ask
list owners (CC) to consider some action.
Yours sincerely,
Vojtěch

Dne středa 20. srpna 2025 3:16:10, středoevropský letní čas, Michael
Zyphur napsal(a):
Thanks again everyone for continuing this conversation.
Instats is happy to participate on the list in any way that's
best for the community. Just let us know what you think
that is, and we're happy to contribute that way!
Best wishes
Michael Zyphur

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 at 02:21, Jacob Berv wrote:
Seems like there should be a solution somewhere between total
ban and extra work for mods. Is there a mechanism to contribute
such adverts to some kind of once or twice a month digest? Maybe
we can require all adverts to contain a clear tag in the subject (eg
[ADVERT]) to aid easy filtering?
Jake

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 12:06 PM David Bapst wrote:
Continuing this thread, I will note that since Liam's initial
suggestion
that advertisements be limited to phylogenetics, Oliver Hooker has
posted three announcements unrelated to phylogenetics.
Cheers,
-Dave B
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