Dear Julien,

Thank you for your response. My understanding of that was it required
continuous response variables. Can it take zero inflated proportion data?

Kind regards,
Udita

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 5:37 AM Julien Clavel <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Udita,
>
> To complete Krzysztof's message, there is an implementation of
> phylogenetic PCA for multiple models in the mvMORPH package (see the
> mvlgs.pca function). This model is simpler than some of the other
> multivariate versions you may find in the package, but it allows departure
> from the BM assumption used in most implementations.
>
> All the best,
>
> Julien
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> Krzysztof Bartoszek via R-sig-phylo <[email protected]>
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> Objet : Re: [R-sig-phylo] Phylogenetic ordination for proportion data with
> zeroes (Udita Bansal)
>
>
> Dear Udita,
> While I do not have a complete answer to your question there are two
> things that could be useful. You mention that you hav emany structural
> zeroes. What do you mean ny this? That the trait is not present in the
> particular species? In this case the PCMFit (on GitHub) or glinvci (on
> CRAN) packages could be an option. They allow for estimation under a wide
> family of phylogenetic Gaussian models and permit missing traits directly
> without the need to add some tiny values (as this has a completely
> different mathematical meaning).
>
> You also mention that you want to do a PCA. While one can do a
> phylogenetic PCA under a Brownian motion model of evolution, if you change
> the model to, e.g., an Ornstein-Uhlenbeck model (which allows for
> stabilizing selection), then I do not think that there is any phylogenetic
> PCA implemented.
>
> Best wishes
> Krzysztof Bartoszek
>
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