I can't name anything without doing some research into it, but I do  
remember some experiments in the '90s in which expectation affected  
subatomic particle spin direction. >50% of the time the particle would  
spin in the direction of the observer's expectation.

Damn, I should've gone into physics.

Alicia


On Sep 6, 2008, at 4:05 PM, delancey wrote:

>
> BTW, and as a question not relevant to this story since I don't care
> if he stretched the interpretation:  can anyone point me to any
> evidence that something called "consciousness" is required to collapse
> the wave?  I always thought it was just decoherence and that arose
> from any causal interaction.  I don't know the source of this idea
> that consciousness, rather than simple interaction, is required to
> collapse the wave.
>
> cd
>
> On Sep 6, 2:40 pm, Alicia Henn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hmmm. I thought he did collapse it in the first experiment. Maybe it
>> was only the other guys that did it. That changes everything. So he  
>> is
>> one of the "soulless" ones that knew the outcome before it was even  
>> run.
>> I think I need to go back and read this one a second time. Maybe the
>> experiment will be different if I am more conscious of the outcome?
>>
>> Alicia
>> On Sep 6, 2008, at 2:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> The way I read it, those that cannot collapse the wave -- and the
>>> narrator discovers he's one of them -- are not fully consciously
>>> human.  They lack souls, for lack of a better word.  They are not as
>>> woven into the consciousness of the universe as others.  They are
>>> extraneous, on a cosmic scale.
>>> Nan
>>
>>> In a message dated 9/6/2008 1:52:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>  writes:
>>
>>> Yeah, I voted to nominate it for the Nebula ballot.  I thought it  
>>> very
>>> well done, with some clever ideas.  I did have one very, very big
>>> reservation, though.  Why should I be suicidal about the twin  
>>> slit, or
>>> because some people collapse the wave differently?  I don't see it,
>>> really.  Seems bizarrely arbitrary -- like some Victorian being
>>> suicidal because someone discovers space is curved.  That'll likely
>>> keep me from voting for it on the final ballot.
>>
>>> cd
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 12:07 pm, Alicia Henn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I just read a story that Nan Kress had recommended to me last week.
>>>> I had been Greg Egan's biggest fan.
>>>> Now I wanna grow up to be Ted Kosmatka.
>>>> His story, "Divining Light" in the August Asimov's rocks electrons.
>>>> Definitely worth buying a copy on the newstand if they're still
>>> around.
>>
>>>> Alicia
> >


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