The answer is both. Clearly, I needed an economic reason why this insanely
expensive thing could be built. I could have invented Gee-Whiz technology to
say it could be done cheaply, or put it far enough into the future that it
somehow wasn't a big deal, but I wanted that optimism for a reason.
I was trying to get the flavor of the space race. I wanted a 1950s world
(the world we imagined the 50s were like) of excitement and optimism. I
wanted this thing to be a sort of pride of humanity the way the moon shots
were a point of pride for Americans. There was some mention of things like
people watching the launches from baseball games and the launches being a
big deal, even though right now a space shuttle launch doesn't even make the
news.

So yeah, the optimism was intentional, but it was also necessary.

Now that I think about it, I outlined "Endure" while I was writing "Sea."
Endure starts with about the most depressing scenario I could come up with,
but ends happily. Maybe as readers we need that expectation-defying factor
in our fiction. Just a thought.

--
Jonathan Sherwood
Sr. Science & Technology Press Officer
University of Rochester
585-273-4726


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Eric Scoles <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Optimists? Bah! Who needs 'em? What have they ever done for the betterment
> of mankind?
>
> I mean, other than building things, bearing children, and promulgating the
> idea of progress.
>
> Seriously, though: I don't really buy the idea of SF as a principally
> negativist enterprise, or even (which is really S.W.'s point) that it
> changes that much in positivity or negativity with economic trends. Analog,
> at least, tends to the positivist as far as I've ever been able to tell, and
> it seems pretty consistent over time. It would be harder to say one way or
> the other about Asimovs. If she's talking about her own editorial focus,
> that would be different, but that doesn't seem to be what she's talking
> about.
>
> What might be interesting is to contrast the stuff that's successful within
> the field to the stuff that attains more popular success. Or even what's
> successful in terms of awards (Nebula *or* Hugo) with what sells.
>
> If I were a betting man, I'd bet that on the mode, "negativism" sells more
> and "positivism" wins more awards.
>
> Rather than settle that hypothetical bet with myself, though, I'm going to
> go back to working on my grim novel about the corruption of democratic
> society through the growth of the surveillance state...
>
> Also, Jonathan's response highlights how difficult it would be to classify
> what constitutes optimism versus pessimism. It's really a pretty grim story
> -- "Cold Equations" taken to school and made to work harder, if you will.
> But it's got that one optimistic sub-premise. The problem is that the
> optimistic premise (as Sheila points out) is critical to the story, because
> without it, the amount of effort required for the scenario is just not
> plausible. So is it that the premise is optimistic because Jonathan is
> optimistic, or because he needed it to support the scenario?
>
> (Jonathan? Is there actually an answer to that question?)
>
>
>
> delancey wrote:
>
> July Asimov arrived today.  Sentence 1 of William's editorial:  "In
> his February 2006 story, 'Under the Graying Sea,' Jonathan Sherwood
> imagines a future where, for short time, 'the world was at peace,
> economies were expanding, and generosity chic.'"
>
> It goes on from there.
>
> Who is this Sherwood she cites?  Let's make him an honorary member of
> R-Spec.  He could balance our famous pessimists.
>
> cd
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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