I detect that you and others detect a certain cynicism. :)  Can one be
cynical about one's motives for being funny?

Sarah

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:12 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Have you seen his talk show?
>
> He know's what has made him a household name.  So he plays to that.
>
> Wayne
>
>  In a message dated 3/1/2010 10:36:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> Re. satire versus seriousness, I'm with Jonathan on this one. Shatner's
> whole "Transformed Man" LP is full of painful stuff like that. (His cover of
> "Mister Tambourine Man" is actually kind of terrifying. It's like the
> Tambourine Man is Freddy Krueger or something. "I'll come FOLLOWIN' YA!")
> Add that to stories that folks like Walter Koenig and George Takei tell, and
> it's hard for me to take this as satire.
>
> Shatner reminds me of those little kids who start out being serious, get
> laughs, and then ham it up to keep getting attention. He does have good
> comic timing, though, it's true. He was hilarious when he hosted SNL
> (especially the bit where he posed in front of a mirror, flexing and
> complimenting himself, for the entire sketch). The bits in the early days of
> Boston Legal where every line of his dialogue for an entire scene would be
> inflections on "Denny Crane" could be very funny. Unfortunately David Kelley
> has the same ego/performance issues as Shatner, with no one (e.g. a
> director) to tell him when he's out to sea.
>
> Does Shatner know he's doing parody? By this point and based on some things
> he says, I think he must. But I also think he forgets. And sometimes, even
> when the schtick gets serious -- e.g. he did a cover of "Common People" with
> Joe Jackson that's not half bad. I suspect that's because Ben Folds rode him
> on the "interpretative" excesses.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Jonathan Sherwood <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't know. I don't think he got into his satirical phase until much
>> later. If I heard the audience laughing, then I'd believe it was meant to be
>> a joke. Or if I saw the slightest twinkle in Shattner's eye to suggest he
>> was poking fun at himself - but I think he was just trying to get his
>> singing career off the ground. <slaps hands over eyes - I can't watch
>> anymore!>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Sal Armoniac <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> PS:  I laugh hysterically every time I see it! :)  It's hilarious.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Sal Armoniac <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ha guys, didn't any of you see it as satiric?  Shatner is playing that
>>>> role to this day on Boston Legal.  That character didn't come out of the
>>>> blue.
>>>>
>>>> I'm convinced that that's a parody Shatner is doing of Shatner as he
>>>> plays Kirk. :)
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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