> Report problems/comments/suggestions to me so that the list doesn’t get
flooded.

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 2:04 PM Laurent <[email protected]> wrote:

> I too love the new design. Good job!
>
> Just a few comments if I may—others may disagree with them, so do what you
> want with them:
> - In Mature, I would mention the excellent documentation, and maybe the
> neat module system, rather than standalone binaries.
> - In the first section, 6 items rather than 4 would be okay with me.
> - A little more syntax coloration would look nicer. Datalog is given no
> coloration for example, which makes it look like a second-class citizen.
> - [French . "Allô le monde"]  --> [French . "Bonjour le monde"]
> ("Allo" is used exclusively as a greeting on the phone in fr-fr)
> - Although I see the intent behind having:
> my-hello-world
> (printf
> <http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/Writing.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._printf))>
> "~a\n" my-hello-world)
> (message-box
> <http://docs.racket-lang.org/gui/Windowing_Functions.html#(def._((lib._mred/main..rkt)._message-box))>
> "" my-hello-world)
> I would recommend only the latter, so as to look as simple as possible
> - Some 'cool' features that I think should be on the front page:
>   - powerful and extensible 'for' loops (on a personal note, it's the
> ability to define your own loops that brought me back to Scheme a while ago)
>   - plotting and drawing libraries
> - "no make files required" --> "no makefiles required" I suppose
> - The picture big-macros-class.png isn't displayed in its original
> proportions, which doesn't look good. The same goes for lang-video.png.
> - The "Vibrant community" is a little redundant with the "Community" one,
> two sections below.
> - The "Polished" subsection is a little redundant with the "IDE support"
> subsection. "Polished" isn't very telling either. (Not sure what to
> recommend though.)
> - I would remove "(neé DrScheme)", but if you keep it, it should be "née".
> - "Racket programmers usually love parentheses, but they have empathy for
> those few who need commas and braces." :-D
>   "They have empathy for those few" maybe can sound a little condescending
> for some people rather than funny? What about "but they understand those
> who feel better with"
> - I'm a little torn on whether the texts in the second section are too
> verbose or not. I would have imagined a style closer to slides, such as
> bullets lists with emphasis on some words. Maybe not.
> - I miss the 7-liner programs :)
> - "DRY": Wikipedia link?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_repeat_yourself
> - I would prefer if (define
> <http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/define.html#(form._((lib._racket/private/base..rkt)._define))>
> cim current-inexact-milliseconds) was declared before its first use. I
> find it a little confusing otherwise.
> - What about using `define-simple-macro` instead of `define-syntax` +
> `syntax-parse` for the sake of simplicity?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:30 PM Stephen De Gabrielle <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 16:36, Sorawee Porncharoenwase <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you meant to reply all?
>>>
>>>
>> Oops - yes 🤪
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The feedback from that blog post is always good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which feedback?
>>>
>>> I seem to recall people finding that blog post useful when it is pointed
>> out to them. I currently have it in a pinned tab in the browser.
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 8:13 AM Stephen De Gabrielle <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The feedback from that blog post is always good.
>>>> Noting that it has two predecessors I truly believe it should become
>>>> the chapter 0 of
>>>> https://docs.racket-lang.org/racket-build-guide/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Did I say I love the new design?
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 2:25 PM Sorawee Porncharoenwase <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For "Contributing", would it make more sense to link to the official
>>>>> guide (https://docs.racket-lang.org/racket-build-guide/contribute.html) 
>>>>> rather
>>>>> than the blog post (
>>>>> https://blog.racket-lang.org/2017/09/tutorial-contributing-to-racket.html
>>>>> )?
>>>>>
>>>>> - The blog post is a little bit outdated on the "Hints for finding
>>>>> documentation" section (we now have a good way to locate where the doc is,
>>>>> thanks to Sam).
>>>>> - The blog post is probably never going to be updated, but the
>>>>> official guide can be updated.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 5:45 AM Matthias Felleisen <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:15 PM, Matthias Felleisen <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks to all the people who sent feedback to the proposed new
>>>>>> web site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While, as you could see for yourself, the opinions are somewhat
>>>>>> diverging on many aspects, the exercise was extremely helpful. We will
>>>>>> assess the various ideas and see what can and cannot be implemented. If
>>>>>> your idea doesn’t make it, rest assured that it has influenced our 
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> and your effort of writing it down was worth it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> — Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as you can see from the date of the quoted email, it has been a while
>>>>>> since we discussed the revision of our front page. And it is time to 
>>>>>> return
>>>>>> to this topic. The revised design is located here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      https://users.cs.northwestern.edu/~robby/tmp/Web/www/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While some the feedback was contradictory, a lot of it was helpful
>>>>>> and found its way into the design in one way or another. Of course, that
>>>>>> does not mean everybody will be happy but the people who have spent a lot
>>>>>> of time on this effort are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would appreciate the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> — test-drive the web site on your laptop browser to discover typos,
>>>>>> grammatical mistakes, bad images etc.
>>>>>> — also visit the page on your phones and see whether the phone layout
>>>>>> works for yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Report problems/comments/suggestions to me so that the list doesn’t
>>>>>> get flooded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IF and that would be WONDERFUL, you have knowledge on how to improve
>>>>>> the CSS to fix a problem, create a pull request at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    https://github.com/racket/racket-lang-org/tree/wip-2nd
>>>>>>    which is the relevant branch of the source of the Racket Lang Org
>>>>>> web site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will go public in a week from today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you all for all your inputs again and we’re looking forward to
>>>>>> your final comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> — Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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