(add1 Jay)

That kind of overhead has to be a bug somewhere, or a bad way to write
something. I hope.

Vincent



On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:40:33 -0600,
Jay McCarthy wrote:
> 
> I would prefer taking this useful library and making it actually
> useful to all Racket users.
> 
> Jay
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Asumu, does this make sense to you? Note that in particular, I think that a 
> > warning at the top of the pfds package wouldn’t have helped me; I think a 
> > warning at the top of each pfds page would make a lot more sense.
> >
> > John
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <[email protected]> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, I think a warning at the top of the documentation for the `pfds` 
> >> package would make sense, and probably Asumu would accept such a pull 
> >> request. You might follow the phrasing in the math/array library.
> >>
> >> Sam
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 1:49 PM 'John Clements' via Racket Users 
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> This program constructs a trie containing exactly two keys; each is a list 
> >> of 256 integers. On my machine, it takes *twelve seconds*. The time taken 
> >> appears to be n^2 in the length of the key, so doubling it to 256 means 
> >> it’ll take about a minute to add a key.
> >>
> >> #lang racket
> >>
> >> (require pfds/trie)
> >>
> >> (define (rand-list)
> >>   (for/list ([i (in-range 128)])
> >>     (random 256)))
> >>
> >> (define t (trie (list (rand-list))))
> >> (define u (time (bind (rand-list) 0 t)))
> >>
> >> When I translate this to typed racket, the time taken is 0 ms.
> >>
> >> I feel like I got a bit burned here, and an ordinary user might simply 
> >> conclude that Racket libraries are teh suck.
> >>
> >> Can we add a warning to the beginning of the documentation page for Tries 
> >> (and perhaps for the other data structures as well) indicating that these 
> >> functions are likely to be unusably slow in #lang racket?
> >>
> >> I propose the following, at the top of the documentation. Possibly in 
> >> boldface.
> >>
> >> “NB: these data structures are written in Typed Racket. While they may be 
> >> nominally usable in the (untyped) Racket language, the resulting dynamic 
> >> checks will probably cause them to be unacceptably slow”
> >>
> >> Suggestions? May I make a pull request here?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >>
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