I went ahead and added some info on the difference between Racket and Python appends to https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Python-to-Racket . Sorry to whoever for the salvo of poorly documented revisions.
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 12:21 AM David Van Horn <[email protected]> wrote: > I've updated the docs to get to the point faster with some early examples. > > http://dvanhorn.github.io/ralist/ > > David > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 5:21 PM John Clements <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I struggled with whether to send that message… I saw the name, “random >> access lists”, thought, “hmm, I wonder what that would like”, and clicked >> on the link. I wound up reading a bit about whether I should use (first >> impresssion) superficial or in-depth contracts, and ran out of steam pretty >> quickly. Ultimately, of course, the real issue is that your documentation >> wasn’t designed to help python programmers jump into their first experience >> with Racket, but a link to your documentation has essentially just made you >> an involuntary ambassador. >> >> >> John >> >> > On Feb 16, 2019, at 14:00, David Van Horn <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > There are several examples for every function provided by the ralist >> library. (And it's almost verbatim what's in the Racket reference for >> pairs and lists.) >> > >> > But... I can add some early examples. No problem. >> > >> > David >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 4:00 PM John Clements <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > The pointer to RaLists would be much more enticing if we could convince >> David Van Horn to begin his documentation with a couple of small examples…. >> > >> > John >> > >> > > On Feb 13, 2019, at 14:35, Stephen De Gabrielle < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > I should note that anyone with a GitHub account can edit >> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Python-to-Racket >> > > >> > > S. >> > > >> > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 21:26, Matthias Felleisen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > Not until there’s demand. I think we do see demand for Python >> transfers. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Feb 13, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Stephen De Gabrielle < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Should there be similar pages for Javascript, Java,C#, C/C++, Ruby, >> PHP, Visual Basic, Scratch and Haskell? >> > > > >> > > > S. >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:03 PM Stephen De Gabrielle < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > I created a DRAFT page on the Racket GitHub wiki: >> > > > https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Python-to-Racket >> > > > It links to a 'Choosing a data structure' page >> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Choosing-a-data-structure >> > > > - this just as copy of the table created by Jens Axel Søgaard at: >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27584416/in-racket-what-is-the-advantage-of-lists-over-vectors/27589146#27589146 >> ) >> > > > >> > > > Please edit/delete as you see fit >> > > > >> > > > Kind regards >> > > > Stephen >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:20 PM Matthias Felleisen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > This is perfect! Thanks — Matthias >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Feb 11, 2019, at 11:04 PM, Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > For anyone creating such a web page for Python to Racket >> specifically, >> > > > > there is probably a great deal of inspiration, and reminders of >> > > > > stumbling blocks, to be found in Arne Babenhauserheide's >> > > > > https://www.draketo.de/py2guile book (available online for free) >> about >> > > > > going from Python to Guile Scheme. >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > /c >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 7:00 AM Matthias Felleisen >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> Racket needs *you*. Please. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> The proper approach is to have short pages for different >> language immigration groups: Python and R come to mind as obvious examples >> but I am sure there are others. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> What I mean is we need help and *you* can help. Let me explain >> it with the Python example: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> 1. Set up a page (wiki?) called “From Python to Racket” >> > > > >> >> > > > >> 2. Create two sections that are immediately visible from the top: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> — idioms >> > > > >> — performance pitfalls >> > > > >> >> > > > >> 3. In the specific case of Python, the second subsection needs >> to start with a subsection on >> > > > >> >> > > > >> — Python Lists aren’t Racket Lists >> > > > >> — then point to data/ralis and show how to transliterate >> the loop/append example like this >> > > > >> — optionally also show the more native Racket idiom >> > > > >> >> > > > >> 4. When anyone observers another blog/social media/whatever post >> on Racket is slow because I come from Python, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> (a) point the posters to the page or >> > > > >> (b) if it is a new case, write a section for this example >> then do (a) >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> If you want to help advertise Racket to others, this is an >> excellent way of helping out. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Thanks — Matthias >> > > > >> >> > > > >> [[ p.s. For my very first Python program (a couple of days >> before meeting with GvR), I used Python’s append and was annoyed beyond >> belief. ]] >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> -- >> > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "Racket Users" group. >> > > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> it, send an email to [email protected]. >> > > > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "Racket Users" group. >> > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Racket Users" group. >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > ---- >> > > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Racket Users" group. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Racket Users" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. 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