Oops, I didn't see Andreas' last e-mail went to my junk folder. Sorry to
hear 10.10.1 doesn't help.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Tim Perry <tim.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just received the following from DropBox and it seemed like it *might*
> be relevant:
>
> We’re reaching out to let you know about an issue in Apple’s new OS X
> Yosemite that causes problems withDropbox. You can resolve this issue by
> installing the latest Software Update for OS X Yosemite.
>
> OS X Yosemite may occasionally cause some programs to crash when you
> open, save-as, or first save a file. These crashes are rare but happen when
> an application, such asDropbox, uses Yosemite’s official Finder
> integration — and if that program crashes because of this interaction,
> unsaved changes may be lost.
>
> To fix this issue, Apple has released OS X Update 10.10.1. This update is
> available for free in the Mac App Store. Details on how to update your Mac
> are available onApple’s support site <http://support.apple.com/HT1338>.
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Andreas Noback <m...@noback.info> wrote:
>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> thank you for the quick response. I suspected that it is a bug from Apple
>> and was hoping that the update today (10.10.1) would change something, but
>> it does not. In general the Yosemite release seems to me buggier that the
>> last couple of major updates, so it could be wise to avoid it for a while
>> ...
>>
>> Best,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> > Am 18.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Gregory J. Ward <gregoryjw...@gmail.com
>> >:
>> >
>> > Hi Andreas,
>> >
>> > A quick follow-up to this.  I tried it out on my copy of Yosemite, and
>> confirmed the problem.  It seems to be an intermittent problem with the
>> system select() call, which means there's little I can do about it except
>> hope Apple recognizes the issue and posts a patch at some point.  The last
>> change I made in this code related to a hanging condition was in 1997, and
>> it's been working across Unix implementations since then.
>> >
>> > For now, I can only suggest you avoid multiprocessing until the next
>> patch release.  You can try reporting a bug to Apple, but without a simple
>> test case to reproduce it, they are unlikely to do anything other than
>> register the complaint.  I haven't seen anything on the net about it, yet.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > -Greg
>> >
>> >> From: "Gregory J. Ward" <gregoryjw...@gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] MacOS Yosemite
>> >> Date: November 18, 2014 8:10:48 AM PST
>> >>
>> >> HI Andreas,
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry to hear about this issue, and it is unlikely that there is
>> any way to debug it.  A hung process doesn't respond to debugging, either!
>> >>
>> >> The best approach is to kill one of the processes using "kill -QUIT"
>> and seeing if it leaves behind a diagnostic file in
>> $HOME/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/.  Then at least, we may find out what
>> routine it is hanging in.
>> >>
>> >> The only other idea I had is to disable "App Nap" system-wide to see
>> if this is causing the problem.  See:
>> >>
>> >>      http://www.defaults-write.com/10-9-disable-app-nap-in-os-x
>> >>
>> >> I don't know why this would affect non-application processes, or why
>> it would present an issue in 10.10 if it wasn't an issue in 10.9, but it's
>> worth a try.
>> >>
>> >> I will see if I can reproduce this on my copy of Yosemite as well.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> -Greg
>> >>
>> >>> From: Andreas Noback <m...@noback.info>
>> >>> Subject: [Radiance-dev] MacOS Yosemite
>> >>> Date: November 18, 2014 1:25:27 AM PST
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear List,
>> >>>
>> >>> has someone experience with radiance and new MacOS 10.10? I tried it
>> and got some unpleasant results: If you start rad with the -N option (for
>> example: rad -N 4 -o x11 -v hem test.rif) it start as usual, but after a
>> few seconds it seems to stuck, i. e. not responding to input, no further
>> refining, no processor load. The processes seem to be waiting for something
>> (forever):
>> >>>
>> >>> 1447 s000  S+     0:00.00 rad -N 4 -o x11 -v hem test.rif
>> >>> 1450 s000  S+     0:00.03 rvu -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0
>> -vh 180 -vv 180 -vo 0 -va 0 -vs 0 -vl 0 -dp 512 -
>> >>> 1452 s000  S+     0:00.25 rvu -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0
>> -vh 180 -vv 180 -vo 0 -va 0 -vs 0 -vl 0 -dp 512 -
>> >>> 1453 s000  S+     0:00.24 rvu -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0
>> -vh 180 -vv 180 -vo 0 -va 0 -vs 0 -vl 0 -dp 512 -
>> >>> 1454 s000  S+     0:00.24 rvu -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0
>> -vh 180 -vv 180 -vo 0 -va 0 -vs 0 -vl 0 -dp 512 -
>> >>> 1455 s000  S+     0:00.28 rvu -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0
>> -vh 180 -vv 180 -vo 0 -va 0 -vs 0 -vl 0 -dp 512 -
>> >>>
>> >>> Similar things happen if you use it without -o x11 (rad -N 4 -v hem
>> test.rif): some process start, parts of the image will be rendered. Than
>> the load goes to zero and nothing happens any more. Here you can see some
>> zombies:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1315 s000  S+     0:00.01 rad -N 4 -v hem test.rif
>> >>> 1318 s000  Z+     0:00.00 (rad)
>> >>> 1325 s000  S+     0:00.00 rpict -S 1 -PP pfM4wGSj -dp 512 -ar 32 -ms
>> 0.05 -ds .3 -dt .1 -dc .5 -dr 1 -ss 1 -st .1 -ab
>> >>> 1408 s000  S+     0:00.00 rad -N 4 -v hem test.rif
>> >>> 1409 s000  S+     0:00.01 rpiece -F test_hem_rpsync.txt -PP pfM4wGSj
>> -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0 -vh 180 -v
>> >>> 1410 s000  S+     0:00.00 rpict -S 1 -PP pfM4wGSj -dp 512 -ar 32 -ms
>> 0.05 -ds .3 -dt .1 -dc .5 -dr 1 -ss 1 -st .1 -ab
>> >>> 1411 s000  Z+     0:00.00 (rpict)
>> >>> 1412 s000  S+     0:00.00 rad -N 4 -v hem test.rif
>> >>> 1413 s000  S+     0:00.01 rpiece -F test_hem_rpsync.txt -PP pfM4wGSj
>> -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0 -vh 180 -v
>> >>> 1414 s000  S+     0:00.00 rpict -S 1 -PP pfM4wGSj -dp 512 -ar 32 -ms
>> 0.05 -ds .3 -dt .1 -dc .5 -dr 1 -ss 1 -st .1 -ab
>> >>> 1416 s000  S+     0:00.01 rpiece -F test_hem_rpsync.txt -PP pfM4wGSj
>> -vth -vp 0 0 0.001 -vd 0 0 1 -vu 0 1 0 -vh 180 -v
>> >>> 1417 s000  S+     0:00.00 rpict -S 1 -PP pfM4wGSj -dp 512 -ar 32 -ms
>> 0.05 -ds .3 -dt .1 -dc .5 -dr 1 -ss 1 -st .1 -ab
>> >>>
>> >>> There is nothing in the logs. I got the same results with the
>> precompiled binaries and binaries compiled from the head revision under
>> 10.10 with Xcode 6.1.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any suggestions?
>> >>>
>> >>> Andreas Noback
>> >
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