Thank you David, Andy...thanks for having replied to my question. I'll start from the information that you provided me and I'll come back to the forum if necessary.
Have a nice day! Chantal. 2014-02-26 10:50 GMT+01:00 minchaca <[email protected]>: > Thank you David, Andy...thanks for having replied to my question. I'll > start from the information that you provided me and I'll come back to the > forum if necessary. > > Have a nice day! > > Chantal. > > > 2014-02-24 18:45 GMT+01:00 Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>: > > If you can define the tregenza angle basis using the Window xml format >> (which I think you can) then you can import your BSDF into Window without >> modifications. When you combine it with other glazing layers, window will >> use your defined basis and export a BSDF with data for the "custom" angle >> basis (but it annoyingly gives the same Klems definition in the angle basis >> definition tags). >> >> However I don't think energy plus can use anything other than the klems >> basis so you're still stuck. >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Germán <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There is some file in the source code that allows defining new basis... >>> But, do you think it is advisable to build a Klems BTDF matrix from a >>> Tregenza BTDF? A lot of information was probably lost in the "angle >>> averaging"... Right? >>> >>> El 24-02-2014, a las 12:53, David Geisler-Moroder < >>> [email protected]> escribió: >>> >>> Hi Chantal, >>> >>> I'm not completely sure about that, but if I remember right, you can use >>> the bsdf2klems routine for your problem. Therefore you need to properly >>> specify you angle basis (i.e. the Tregenza resolution) in you input >>> XML-file. If I do not completely mix up things, the BSDF routines in >>> Radiance are able to load any user-defined angle basis (as long as it is >>> well-defined). Maybe Greg can confirm my assumption... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> David >>> >>> >>> 2014-02-24 13:32 GMT+01:00 minchaca <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> @German >>>> Thanks a lot again, I'm gonna check that paper ...and don't worry , no >>>> 'spanglish-spelling-disaster' detected ... everything was clear! :) >>>> >>>> >>>> @Lars, do you mean David Geisler-Moroder? >>>> The data is from the gonio-photometer that we have in the lab, is based >>>> on Tregenza's subdivision of the sky.. it seems >>>> that the 'quiz/utopy' would be to translate tregenza to klems basis. >>>> Anyway...I'll try to find the presentation that you are mentioning.. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks to both, so kind of you! :)) >>>> >>>> Chantal. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-02-24 2:25 GMT+01:00 Germán Molina Larrain <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Chantal, >>>>> >>>>> I understand WINDOW does not support Tregenza basis. However, I guess >>>>> that if you have the "raw data" obtained from the photogoniometer, you >>>>> could mannage to use Radiance's bsdf2klems program (probably not available >>>>> in the NREL's binaries). >>>>> >>>>> Another option might be to perform the Klems matrix calculation in >>>>> Matlab or something like that, and write the BSDF IDF file yourself. The >>>>> procedure, I understand, is Very explained in detailed in two papers named >>>>> "A new method for calculating solar heat gains" by J. Klems. >>>>> >>>>> None of these options is straightforward... They might end up being >>>>> quite hard, actually. >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck! >>>>> >>>>> Germán >>>>> >>>>> Ps: I am answering from my phone, which is in spanish, so the >>>>> "autocorrect" might have caused some gramatical and spelling disasters... >>>>> Sorry for that >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-02-23 20:38 GMT-03:00 Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> May I ask you one more thing (even if I kind of 'feel' what is >>>>>> gonna be the answer) : >>>>>> >> what about if the xml file was generated by a photogoniometer, >>>>>> based in Tregenza's subdivision of the sky? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Do you know if there is a way to import such file in Window? >>>>>> >>>>>> David presented examples step by step where he imported data into >>>>>> Window6. Check recent workshop presentations please. However you would >>>>>> need >>>>>> 145x145 BSDF values according to the Klems subdivisions for following the >>>>>> method. 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