I'm using the Blueprint CSS framework reset. I've been happy with it. A blank slate is the ideal place to start for me.
Dan: that list looks great. Ironically those topics sounds like coverage of the fundamentals, but thats exactly what I would like hear. It also demonstrates the gap between a designer and non-designer like me. That being a handle on the broader scope of the process and principles of web design. A top down view if you like. PS. Dan, codeape.net seems to be dead. On Feb 8, 3:59 am, Dan Cheail <dan.che...@me.com> wrote: > I use a reset css, but I don't like the syntax of the YUI grid stuff - > prefer to roll my own > -- > Dan Cheail > Chief Geek, Codeape. > phone: 0402 114 697 > web:http://codeape.net > > On 08/02/2009, at 3:14 AM, Xavier Shay wrote: > > > > > Dan Cheail wrote: > >> As another deverloper/designer who handles both sides of the coin, > >> I'd > >> be inclined to suggest that the most valuable means of presentation > >> is > >> something practical and to the point. Trying to teach design > >> principle > >> fundamentals in a single 15-20 minute presentation is going to be > >> difficult at best, and will be even harder for someone to take > >> anything > >> away from. > > >> I've just started a new rails-based app at work, and as part of it, > >> I've > >> built a set of stylesheets, templates and FormBuilders that I'm > >> happy to > >> open-source and use as a practical demonstration of some basic design > >> and usability principles, ie: > > >> - advantages of grid-based layouts > > kind of related, does any one use the YUI grid and reset CSS? > > They seem like a "Good Thing" > > >> - ui consistency > >> - Fitt's law / usability fundamentals > >> - effective use of HTML and CSS for layout and usability > >> - 960-based layouts > > >> I'd also be willing to do a basic "makeover" of someone's admin > >> interface if people think it would be a good teaching method. > > >> -- > >> Dan Cheail > >> Chief Geek, Codeape. > >> phone: 0402 114 697 > >> web:http://codeape.net > > >> On 07/02/2009, at 2:47 PM, Brodaigh wrote: > > >>> That's all really nice fellers but it doesn't answer my question > >>> (bar > >>> a couple). > > >>> I deliberately left the original post open-ended so as to see what > >>> might come up fully aware that one way of looking at it is, there is > >>> no answer. > > >>> I'm not looking for the forest I'm looking for the trees. > > >>> So, let's focus on aesthetics and lets make this really simple; > >>> what's > >>> one thing that you think, if you improved or understood better or > >>> even > >>> liked better would enable you one success. > > >>> Forget "I'm not a designer, I'm a developer" that's like saying "I'm > >>> not gay, I'm straight so i cant dress like a gay guy", whether you > >>> want to or not, is what's relevant. I could take that further but in > >>> good taste, I won't. > > >>> Oh and yes aesthetics -subjective. Ok but lets just say that you > >>> want > >>> to make something that looks good to you. > > >>> It may be how you come to a decision and having a point where that > >>> decision needs to meet. > > >>> I could assume there's no technical issue because you're all good > >>> at solving technical issues. > > >>> Anyway, if anything comes to mind it would be great if peeps could > >>> post it here or email me, broda...@gmail.com <mailto:broda...@gmail.com > >>> >. > > >>> PS. did you notice all my paragraphs are out of alignment? > > >>> :-) > > >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Stuart Coyle <stuart.co...@gmail.com > >>> <mailto:stuart.co...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >>> And for Linux users there's Agave! I find it quite useful for > >>> color > >>> scheme selection. > > >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Xavier Shay <xavier-l...@rhnh.net > >>> <mailto:xavier-l...@rhnh.net>> wrote: > > >>>> Paul Fraser wrote: > >>>>> I have just discovered this page which is quite spectacular, > >>> play around > >>>>> with it.... > >>>>>http://kuler.adobe.com/#create/fromacolor > >>>>http://www.colourlovers.com/you don't need flash > > >>>>> Paul Fraser > > >>>>> Paul Fraser wrote: > >>>>>> Gareth Townsend wrote: > > >>>>>>> I think I a lot of us could benefit from a principles of > >>> design talk: > > >>>>>>> How to pick a group of colours that work together. > > >>>>>>http://kuler.adobe.com/#themes/mostpopular is of assistance > >>> in this > >>>>>> pursuit. > > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> Paul Fraser > > >>> -- > >>> Stuart Coyle > >>> stuart dot coyle at gmail dot com > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
