Hi!

The reason it works that way is that there is a big difference in the amount
of red/blue captured by the sensor under different lighting conditions.

For example, when you capture images in a low-kelvin environment (like a
lightbulb), there is plenty of "red", which your sensor picks up. On the
other hand, there is very little blue. When you do the whitebalance
adjustment, you amplify the "weak" channel - here the blue. So any
inprecisions are amplified much more.

Glad to help!


Regards, Klaus Post

http://www.klauspost.com


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 23:27, David Vincent-Jones <[email protected]>wrote:

> Very interesting Klaus;
>
> Did some tests on contrasty high altitude mountain snow scenes and by
> setting the red channel to zero the 'grain' all but disappeared, further
> I was able to use greater sharpening and the denoise function worked
> exceptionally well. Very big difference!
>
> On the same imagery the blue at zero was not so effective but I will now
> make some tests with other imagery and try to standardize some settings.
> It would be interesting if, with Saturation set to zero, the Colour
> Temperature somehow directly related to thy Channel Mixer settings
> (probably just too complicated).
>
> More work .. I probably now need to rework a whole bunch of data ... but
> seriously thanks again.
>
> David
>
> On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 22:14 +0200, Klaus Post wrote:
> > Hi David!
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 17:47, David Vincent-Jones
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >         I am finding that sharpening of my monochrome images appears
> >         to create
> >         fairly heavy noise, even when done in moderation. I have tried
> >         the
> >         'denoise' feature and find it makes little or no change.
> >
> > The "denoise" also functions as a noise floor for the sharpening
> > algorithm, so in general you should try to
> >
> > Secondly, when doing BW, you can sometimes reduce noise by eliminating
> > a channel that is "stretched" due to white balance, so if you have low
> > WB temperature, eliminate the blue and if you have a medium to high,
> > eliminate the red.
> >
> > I just did a few tests on high contrast, high ISO BW images, and I can
> > see your issue, since color noise is converted to luma noise. I will
> > do a few tests, but it seems like it could be a solution to heighten
> > the maximum value for denoise, to 150 for instance. I don't want to
> > set it too high, since we begin to get artifacts in some cases.
> >
> >         In part this may occur since I tend to manipulate the tone
> >         curve fairly
> >         extensively with monochrome.
> >
> >         As I understand it sharpening needs to be applied subsequent
> >         to all
> >         other functions ... does the program know that?
> >
> > Yes - sharpen/denoise is the last function to be applied in the chain.
> >
> >
> >
> >         Is anyone out there also finding this same situation and is
> >         there a
> >         solution?
> >
> >         David
> >
> > Best regards, Klaus
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