Thank you, Vagrant, for taking my concerns seriously. I realize you've been working on this much longer than I have, so I appreciate your perspective.

On 3/6/24 10:55 AM, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
That means that we do not always support each other in all things, but
we can support each other in most things, and that seems more important
to me, at least in this case.

That is the crux of the issue for me. Until now, I thought we were rather united in our goal, and we did support one another. Now our goals are fragmenting, and I think that makes us weaker.

I thought our common goal, no matter our project affiliation, was to enable reproducible builds everywhere: not just Debian, not just Linux distributions, but also F-Droid, Flatpak, AppImage, Snap packages, different build farms -- anywhere open-source software is built. That requires us to work together to eliminate all sources of nondeterminism.

My fear is that, by fragmenting our goals and losing the critical support of Debian, the rest of us may never get to that common goal.

John

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