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From: karentellef via RBASE-L [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - speed in form coming up

Oh yeah, you have NO idea how much I hate that stupid "not responding" message! 
 It confuses the users so much!  I really do have to tell everyone to totally 
ignore that, that it's not RBase giving that message but rather Windows simply 
because something is taking more than a second or two to process.

Karen


-----Original Message-----
From: Albert <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: rbase-l <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Mon, Jun 27, 2016 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - speed in form coming up
The "not responding" is a Windows thing. Windows allows a certain amount of 
time for a process to finish, and if it has not completed pops up this annoying 
message. When a large database is collecting data for a complex report, this 
invariably pops up on my screen.
Albert

On 2016-06-27 11:50 AM, Jim Belisle wrote:
Javier,

When we first started using the compiled application, we did put the forms and 
reports in the application and set it up as you mentioned.
But we also wanted the flexibility you mentioned because I am constantly 
updating forms/reports or creating new forms and reports.
So we changed and now bring forms and reports up as needed.

I am not an IT person and we depend on an outside IT company. When you said, 
“depending on the network” what factors of the network would present this kind 
of slow processing?
Going from 1 – 2 seconds to 8 seconds for a form to come up is a big 
difference. I also get a “not responding” statement quite often though it is 
really working.

James Belisle

Making Information Systems People Friendly Since 1990
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Javier Valencia
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:42 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [RBASE-L] - speed in form coming up

Jim,

As I understand it, the fastest approach would include compiling the 
forms/reports in the application and then install the application on every 
workstation and just have the database reside on the server. I choose to keep 
the forms and reports not included in the application and keep the application 
and database on the server. While the performance is not as good, it is plenty 
fast (depending on your network) and it gives me the ability to update 
forms/reports on the fly on a live database and the next time the user open the 
form/report, the new version is used…can’t beat the flexibility this approach 
allows.

Best regards,

Javier Valencia, PE
President
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Belisle
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [RBASE-L] - speed in form coming up

We use the last version of RBASE 9.5 and we use a compiled application drawing 
our data from the server.
The forms and reports are not included in the compiled application.

Many of our forms come up using the on key press forms that work great.
Once we double click on the on key press form, the actual editing form comes up.
If I use this process on my local drive, the editing form comes up quickly (1 – 
2 seconds).
When using the process on the server, it takes upwards of 8 seconds for the 
editing form to come up.
I know including the forms and reports in the application is supposed to be 
faster but I did not think it would be that big a difference.
Are there other areas I can look at or suggest to the IT company we use?

James Belisle

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