Buddy

So, you think 
Drop table
Project where Count=0
Insert

will be faster than
Drop Table
Project

Why would this get slower as the day goes on?  
That seems like something is not getting refreshed.

Funny how only 3-5 rows can get slower no matter what method I use.

Thanks
Marc




From: Walker, Buddy 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:44 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List 
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Workstation speed


Marc

  That is why I’m saying drop the temp table and then recreate each time you 
want to add different rows instead of del rows ..

  

  Projecting the table where count = 0 creates the table without any rows. It 
is a lot faster then trying to create the table and add the rows at the same 
time. I believe doing an insert instead of a project or append seems faster.

 

Buddy

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MDRD
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:29 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Workstation speed

 

Buddy

 

My code is fast at the start of the day, the longer they use my app the slower 
this gets

the rest of my app stays fast.  Restarting Rbase / my app makes it faster again

 

Not to sound dense but I will anyway... I do not under the Where Count = 0 ?

 

To me it seems like the Temp table bogs down the longer you use it and is not 
cleared from

memory or some other tech thingy.

 

Marc

 

 

From: Walker, Buddy 

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:56 PM

To: RBASE-L Mailing List 

Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Workstation speed

 

Marc

  If your form is based on the temp table and you are projecting only the rows 
you want, then I wouldn’t use the where clause on the EDIT using… I wouldn’t 
delete rows from the table either I would drop the table and recreate it.

 

  One thing you might want to try is   

 

   DROP TABLE tran_spd 

   PROJECT TEMP TABLE tran_spd FROM tran_hist USING * WHERE COUNT = 0

  INSERT INTO tran_spd (list only the columns you actually need) +

  SELECT the same list of columns in table FROM +

 Tran_hist WHERE custnum = .vcust AND …….

 

  EDIT USI spdyov2 

   No where clause should be necessary since you already filtered the table 
with the project and insert where clause.

 

Buddy

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MDRD
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:21 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Workstation speed

 

Bob and Karen

 

It seems when I first went from 6.5 to 7.5 I used a regular table with Indexes.

But I switched to Temp tables thinking it would be safer is 2 workstations were 
doing the same EEP.

It has been a long time and in the server you can not tell any difference.

 

There are only 3-5 rows each time.

 

These offices waited for several updates of mine so I can't be sure which of my 
"improvements" caused this <g>

 

Scratch is Local TMP

 

I have tried Drop and Project but they say it is still slow 

DROP TABLE tran_spd
 PROJECT TEMP tran_spd FROM tran_hist USING *  +
 WHERE custnum = .vcust AND tr_type = 1 AND tr_date = .vmaxdate

 EDIT USING spdyov2 +
 WHERE tr_type = 1 AND custnum = .vcust CAPTION .vcap

I need to find 2 slow computers to network to make it easier to test this

 

 

Thanks

Marc

 

 

 

From: [email protected] 

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:10 PM

To: RBASE-L Mailing List 

Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Workstation speed

 

Marc,

  I would not use Delete Rows from a temp table when wanting to remove all 
rows.  This is much slower

if there are any number of rows to delete.

 

Instead try, 

 

Drop table Tran_spd

Project temp Tran_Spd from (Permanent empty table name of same column 
structure) using all

   or

If Speedov has the same column names, skip the insert and

 

Project temp Tran_Spd from Speedov using (column list) where......

 

This may prove even faster yet.   However, note that a lock will be placed on 
Speedov if you

use the project from it.  Otherwise project using Where limit = 0 and then use 
the Insert if a lock

on the table would be problematic.

 

You do not say how many records are being inserted at a time.  You do not show 
building an

index on your temp table.  I normally do not use indexes on temp tables unless 
there is a lot of

data and of a type that an index would help with.   If you have indexes and are 
using the

Delete Rows command, that will definitely be slower as it has to update all the 
indexes as well.

 

As Karen stated, make sure your temp settings are local.

-Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:53:10 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Workstation speed

Marc:   Have you tried using a permanent table in 7.5 to see if it's faster 
than using the temp table?    And if you're using temp tables, make sure your 
scratch setting is to a local drive (like SET SCRATCH C:\TEMP)  so that temp 
table information is kept local rather than traveling through the network.

Karen

  This is the second office that has brought up the issue of Rbase getting 
slower as the day wears on.
    
  This tech is a certified network guy so I assume the network is OK, new 
computers 1 gig switches ...
    
  My old code used a regular table and I would just delete rows .....but I 
never heard a complaint on
  the speed
    
  -- tran_spd is a temp table that is created on start of the main menu
    DELETE ROWS FROM tran_spd
  -- APPEND  .... using append instead of insert does not seem to make any 
difference
     
    INSERT +
  INTO tran_spd (custnum,date_con,tr_date,tr_type,ch_code,ch_price,+
  ptest,dig_ch,memo,treat_dr,inscomp,inshold,modf1,modf2,modf3,+
  modf4  ) SELECT custnum,date_con,tr_date,tr_type,ch_code,ch_price,+
  ptest, dig_ch,memo,treat_dr,inscomp,inshold,modf1,modf2,modf3,+
  modf4   FROM speedov WHERE custnum = .vaptcust
    
    EDIT USING spdyov2 +
  WHERE tr_type = 1 AND custnum = .vcust CAPTION .vcap
    
  Then then click a button to Save or append these charges to another table then
  go back to this same EEP again.
    
  Even if I drop Temp tab and Project Temp tab is not faster
    
  I think is it my program logic not 7.5, but my old permanent table in 6.5 was 
faster than the
  temp table in 7.5 

  Why would using Temp table be slower?
    
    
  Marc

 

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