Javier,

We finally found a way to reproduce this rare problem.  In my compiled
application, several forms deep I have been reliably able to
ghost/flash/crash/whatever in the same situation 99 % of the time.  The
really weird part is, that it only crashes when using one specific part
number 'M24308/2-5F' which is very close to many other part numbers that
don't ever crash.

We use this same routine hundreds of times a day with no slow down or
problems with other part numbers.  When I use this one part number,
sometimes (given lots of time) it will resolve itself and then all other
menus items including this same one will work fine as long as I use a
different number, it's like nothing ever happened.

But sometimes, it will freeze the entire Windows 7 Pro (64) system requiring
a reset.  Sometimes it just flashes partial forms from the background, or
shows the form it is trying to load, back and forth until I kill it.

When using the full version, I haven't been able to
crash/flash/ghost/whatever only the compiled app.  I moved copies of
everything off the network and onto my laptop, and it broke first attempt.

Now that I can test, I should be able to remove objects and experiment until
I find some reason.  

I will report what I find, and RBTI will quickly fix it.

I plan to test with 9.5 compiler this weekend as they may have already fixed
whatever this is.

To clarify, the only way I have been able to crash/flash/ghost/whatever is
the combination of 9.1 compiler starting an  external menu form calling a
variable menu form, calling a one table form with a scrolling region based
on lookup of the part number 'M24308/22-5F'.  Any other part works fine. 

Going code error/bug hunting...

Kenny


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Javier
Valencia
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:53 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Strange errors

All their computers are running Windows XP-Pro. I can think of one place in
the application where, if I remember correctly, this issue happened more
than once. I will review the code in that section and make sure there are no
obvious issues. I will also check the event/error logs next time it happens
and see if I can find a pattern. 

Javier,

Javier Valencia, PE
O: 913-829-0888
H: 913-397-9605
C: 913-915-3137


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenny Camp
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:05 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Strange errors

Javier,

I have not see this personally, but my IT team reports they have seen
similar ghosting in two different parts of our main applications that are
used heavily every day, but it is extremely rare.  After your BUMP, we
discussed the two situations they could recall some specifics on.

>From their view, the compiled 9.1 (64) app had stopped and it was a
display/memory issue, kill it and restart.  I don't know that I agree with
that assessment, but there was no database corruption, and no orphaned data
left from the operations that they killed.  I don't think it was an infinite
loop running corrupted code or a process on a corrupted temp table, but it
kind of sounds like it.

We have approx 100 users, including 35 Citrix/RDP users all working in the
same database.  The problems they saw were never a Citrix/RDP session.

The users that experienced the ghosting issue run Window 7 Pro with four
different compiled RBase apps concurrently, Outlook 2007, and many other
programs, and two different browsers, all at the same time.  They have
occassional random weirdness on their systems but it happens to the
non-RBase apps also. 

I put them on the alert to NOT kill next time and to let me take a look, if
it ever happens again.

Kenny

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Javier
Valencia
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:33 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Strange errors

BUMP.

Has anyone experienced  any of these issues? Any suggestions?

Javier,

Javier Valencia, PE
O: 913-829-0888
H: 913-397-9605
C: 913-915-3137


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Javier
Valencia
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:24 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Strange errors

I have run into two error that I can't seem to  figure out why they happen.

The first one happens at random on different computers. While the
application is just displaying a menu and doing nothing otherwise, the
form/screen will begin to flicker rapidly and the only way to exit the
situation is to kill the  application through the Windows Task Manger; the
users have called this condition "ghosting." This happens even when running
the application directly on the server via RDP, so loss of connection is not
the cause.

The second happens when scrolling reports on the screen (70 pages). Once the
report is generated and I start scrolling down the application, it will
abruptly crash. There is nothing unusual in the report and it does not
happen all the time; I can re-run the same report and it will display and
scroll correctly.

I am running a compiled version of 9.1 (9.1.5.20519). Has anyone run into
similar issues?

Javier,

Javier Valencia, PE
O: 913-829-0888
H: 913-397-9605
C: 913-915-3137


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