RE: RBWIN, Moving a simple app to the Internet

[Phil Nolette \(NCS Group, Inc.\)]

Mike,
I appreciate the candor of your discussion.  I was very upset with the
demise of Pascal.  Had developed many programs in it and was content with
the frequency of updates.
I am one of those people that say "no" to learning VB and keep developing RB
systems that I enjoy.  But one thing always gets me upset is when I take
them into the customer and they say why RB? Microsoft is the standard for
the banking industry.  Here's where the rub is.  I can not dispute it
because we do not have a list of RB programs running in that industry.  No
metric is available.
So, the Microsoft consultants get the contracts.

Phil
Bottom line: We need collateral; success stories; referrals.  All these are
needed to "sell" the best damn product.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Mike Byerley
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RBWIN, Moving a simple app to the Internet


The principle difference between using Tango vs. VB is Tango has one use, VB
many.  I empathize with people that have already invested time learning
Tango.
  I think back to 92 and 93, a company I was working with had a person in
house with VBA experience and was doing a few things in Excel and Access.  I
was adamant that I wasn't going to learn VB (at the time I was doing a
little work in C), what with the robustness of RBase language!
  It was two years later when I changed my mind.  In retrospect (isn't
hindsight always a little clearer) wish I had investigated a little deeper
so I could have made an informed decision, based in fact, instead of an
emotional one, based in the belief that the one big arrow in my quiver would
be sufficient for any work I would do.
  With VB you speak the language of perhaps several hundred thousand
developers.  Also, the curly brace deal from C++ is present in java script.
The structure of jscript is similar to C and as I have said previously,
jscript should also be an addition to your toolbox.
  Hell, if I was 25 years old, I would learn Tango and also how to Tango,
but at this stage (only 5 years to social security. yuk!) I want to focus a
little more on the things I know will offer me the most utility to provide
the best bang for the buck for myself and my customers.

mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: RBWIN, Moving a simple app to the Internet


> I guess it is pretty obvious we all have our
> favorite solutions here.  I personally see three
> valid options.
>
> OPTION 1:  If you have no VB or C/C++ experience,
> you might want to give Tango a try.  The learning
> curve is relatively painless and short.  And with
> Razzak successfully establishing a good working
> relationship with the new Tango owners, the
> product should be getting better and have a long
> and productive life.  The IDE is great and you
> can create a lot of HTML code simply by dragging
> and dropping snippets.  Also, there are a lot of
> us on this list that are reasonably familiar with
> it and will offer help when needed.
>
> OPTION 2:  If you have any VB experience, this
> would be a very good way to go.  VB is a very
> stable and robust language that you can do many
> wonderful things with.  Learning curve will be
> quite a bit more difficult, but having that
> language in your repertoire (is that how you
> spell it?) will be a real asset.
>
> OPTION 3:  If you have any C/C++ experience, you
> may want to give PHP a look-see.  If you are used
> to the C type syntax with all the '{' and '}' and
> ';', you will get along very well with PHP.  It
> is FREE and works very well with Oterro and
> R:Base, and seems to be quite fast processing.
>
> Good luck..........
> Dale
>
>
>
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> "Anything your mind can conceive
> and believe, it can achieve."
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