So what you are saying is that you harvest user's information to your
personal servers, rather than storing it in cookies on the client system...
I fail to see how your non-cookie approach is any different, much less any
better.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Manuel de Aguiar
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cookie Fear


Cookies are not need in order to track a user during his buying experience.
I
do it all the time in Tango without cookies.  The main reasons for the
implementation of cookies is because visitors information is just one more
revenue stream for the site owner.  The use of cookies is no different than
when
you give your personal information on many of the "free" sites and then get
inundated with junk email, faxes and regular mail junk.  "LET THE BUYER
BEWARE"
is a basic rule of law.  This mean that if you want to trust the sellers you
are
swimming against the current.

"Crued @ Enteract" wrote:

> That's your loss.  Cookies are a completely legitimate way for a site to
> reuse data.  A company like Staples 'more likely than not' does not share
> any information collected in cookies their site uses.  It would be wiser
of
> you to request their information/security policy and verify that they do
not
> share information about you with other companies.  Then you may go on and
> enjoy the wonderful savings offered to you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Manuel de Aguiar
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 7:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: IF VB IS SO GOOD WHY ARE YOU USING RBASE!
>
> The biggest problem is that many sites won't even let you in unless you
have
> cookies on.  I make it a point to send letters to the webmaster and the
> company's President letting them them know my thoughts.  Staples is one of
> those
> companies.  They send me a boiler plate email telling me how these cookies
> are
> for my own good.  I refuse to purchase from these companies.
> Manuel
>
> Bill Downall wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 8:03 AM Crued @ Enteract wrote:
> >
> > >They can identify you in regards to sites you visit, but they aren't
> > >harvesting your personal information.  No different than what retail
> stores
> > >do when they ask you for your zip code or your phone number and
> > whatnot.
> >
> > No, more like what the grocery store or pharmacy finds out when they
> > scan your discount card: they know what you bought, how much you
> > spent, when, and at which stores.
> >
> > I have two browsers. On one I have set the preferences so that I have to
> > confirm each cookie before it can be stored on my hard drive. It's
> > amazing the huge number of cookies some sites try to store about all the
> > ads they have shown me, and whether I have clicked one. It's also
> > amazing how many sites know what ads were shown to me on seemingly
> > totally unrelated web pages.
> >
> > Bill



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