David,

I don't know how much memory your computer has or what software you have
running in the background.  However, if you are using virus watch type of
software behind the scenes and running Windows XP, then you should have at
least 512 MB memory.  This will significantly reduce or even eliminate
crashes, everything else being equal.  Remove completely (not just disable)
your anti-virus software to see if this makes a difference in your case.  If
it does, then you need more memory.  You will also see much less frequent
disk activities and better overall performance, due to less reliance on
virtual memory.  Memory is quite inexpensive now.  Ideal time to upgrade.

Stan Loo


----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Memory crashes in Windows 2000


> Mike
>
> Thanks!
> Its the same in WIndows XP. OK, I've checked that off, now how do I keep
> track of the crashes / page faults to see if I'm  having the same low RAM
> issue as you were?
>
> David Blocker
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ramsour Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Memory crashes in Windows 2000
>
>
> > David:
> >
> > In Windows 2000 do the following:
> >
> > 1.  Right click on a blank area of the task bar
> > 2.  Click on Task Manager
> > 3.  Click on the Processes tab
> > 4.  Click on View
> > 5.  Click on Select Columns...
> >
> > This brings up a dialog box that allows you to select a wide variety of
> > measurements to track.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Mike Ramsour
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David M. Blocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:45 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Memory crashes in Windows 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Incidentally, I also configured the Windows Task Manager to keep track
of
> > page faults."
> >
> > Can you clarify how to do this? It sounds very useful (I'm running
Windows
> > XP and also have regular crashes out of programs that I'm dealing with)
> >
> > David Blocker
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ramsour Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:15 AM
> > Subject: Memory crashes in Windows 2000
> >
> >
> > > Good morning:
> > >
> > > I have posted recently about memory crashes that I was encountering
> > running
> > > R:Base 6.5++ on a Windows 2000 system.  In the hopes that this may
help
> > > others I am happy to report that (at least tentatively) I have found
out
> > > what the problem was.
> > >
> > > It appears that the way my system was configured and the amount of
disk
> > > space I had available was causing the Windows swap file to run out of
> > space.
> > > Coupled with this was that when I reloaded my database I ran low on
disk
>
> > > space.  Put these two together and I was crashing about every day
during
> > my
> > > morning program run.  I have moved the swap file to my D: drive which
> has
> > > more space and also archived several hundred megabytes of database.
> Since
> > I
> > > have done this I have not had a problem all week.
> > >
> > > This may explain why I was having similar problems when running
> Microsoft
> > > Excel.  It would have occasional memory crashes when working with
large
> > > files.
> > >
> > > Incidentally, I also configured the Windows Task Manager to keep track
> of
> > > page faults.  Having a high number of page faults can indicate that
you
> do
> > > not have enough RAM installed on your system.  A page fault happens
when
> > the
> > > requested data/memory is not in RAM and has to be retrieved from the
> disk
> > or
> > > swap file.  In my particular case, my system had nearly 700,000 page
> > faults
> > > in the spooler program alone during a 12 hour period.  I am having the
> RAM
> > > on my system boosted from 256 MB to 768 MB as soon as possible.  My
new
> > > system, which I'm supposed to get in a week or two is coming
configured
> > with
> > > 1GB of RAM and a 2.0 gHz Pentium IV.  Woo Hoo!!!
> > >
> > > Hope this helps someone out there.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mike Ramsour
> > > Voice:  1-740-829-4340
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