Alastair and Claudine:
I concur wholly with your evaluation. The query functionality that we had in DOS is 
not in available in Windows. There is no simple way, from within an application, to 
switch from the browser screen to the query screen like you could in DOS (CTRL F3). In 
Windows, you have to build your query and once you execute the command, there is no 
way to get back to the QUERY screen to make changes such as add (or subtract) tables 
and/or columns, create new links or change the selection criteria. I always thought 
that this was one of the best features of R:Base, as it gave the user unlimited 
multi-table query capabilities from within an application, this in addition to the 
problems that you pointed out. Mike Willochell  at RBTI came up with a kludged 
workaround, but is too complicated to put in an application.
The other command that I used extensively in DOS was the PROMPT command; with this 
command you could simplify programming dramatically, it is too bad that it is not 
available in Windows. If nothing else, it was an great teaching aid when training new 
users.
Last but definitely not least, unless you want to use Adobe Distiller, there is no way 
to store the results of a standard report to a file as you loose all formatting; 
luckily, we will be getting this capability back in 7.0
Again, RBTI as done an excellent job in trying to accommodate all users requests, and, 
who knows, maybe 7.0 will give us this functionality back. All things considered, I 
believe that switching to Windows was the right decision, since the upgrade to 7.0 
should be (hopefully) a snap.

Javier Valencia, PE
President
Valencia Technology Group, L.L.C.
14315 S. Twilight Ln., Suite #14
Olathe, KS  66062-4571
(913)829-0888
(913)649-2904 FAX

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-rbase-l@;sonetmail.com]On Behalf Of 
Alastair Burr
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Views and Layout

Claudine,

Convert - yes, definitely! But I thought that everything in DOS was supposed
to available in Windows - that's partly what sold me and it's not true.

That's NOT to say that RBWin is no good - there is a lot going for it and,
on balance, I'd go for RBWin every time but I do miss the DOS browser, its
simplicity and its ability to do what it says it does.

I don't know if v7 will fix it but at the moment the screen layout is not
saved properly and you can't - at least, I haven't found the way - to build
a query like you could in DOS - it can be done but it's more complicated or
involved. RBTI say that it works as it's meant to but my argument is that
what it's meant to do is wrong (different) and not as good as it was in
DOS!! But, as you see, there are ways around...

Set soapbox off - for a while <g> and I'll try to stop swearing, I promise!
Regards,
Alastair.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudine Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: Views and Layout


Alastair, thanks for opening my eyes to the simplicity of the answer.  One
SELECT to create all the fields in the view, one BROWSE field-w to put them
on the screen.  Sorta like the Texas two-step.  It works like a charm.  I'll
still submit it to RDCC as an improvement to the view creation SELECT.  Et
plus de jurons en francais! (no more swearing in French).  Going back to
DOS?, I thought you were a convert to 7.0 like the rest of us <g>...
~Claudine :)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-rbase-l@;sonetmail.com] On
Behalf Of Alastair Burr
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Views and Layout

Claudine,

You might try going back to the DOS version because the Windows
browser/editor isn't a patch on the older one.

I've been trying for well over a year - ever since I upgraded to RBWIN - to
get the missing functionality in the Windows browser that the DOS one had
but swearing in English, pounding my head on the desk, or anything else has
failed miserably.

That said, can you not try something like this:

browse col1=1=10, col2=1=20, col3=1=30 from tablename where idnum in (select
idnum from yourview)

I hope that you have more luck than I've had,
Regards,
Alastair.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudine Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:34 PM
Subject: Views and Layout


I have created a view which would fit perfectly in my browser screen if I
was allowed to specify the width of each column as in a normal select
(SELECT field1=10, field2=40, etc...).  Using LAYOUT on, and formatting the
browser columns apparently only works with tables (and then only when all
fields in the table are included, although they can be squeezed to appear
gone).  Changing the default browser font, functions such as CTR and STRIM
and pounding my hand on the desk while cussing in French don't work either!
If no one else knows of a workaround, I think I'll submit this to RDCC as a
desirable improvement in the next release. ~Claudine ☺

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