Randy,

Yes, the Object Manager allows you to open tables and forms all at once but
be very careful where you click to move between them as the tend to jump to
full-screen far too easily for my liking and I always forget to be careful
<g>.

The other thing to be careful with is mixing in commands from the R:> as,
for me anyhow, this seems to upset the open forms sometimes. I'm not quite
sure what causes what to get uppity but something seems to.

Regards,
Alastair.


----- Original Message -----
From: "randyp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms


> Alastair,
>
>         Good points.  Forms are now very much more exciting
> than I remember in my old DOS applications.  I like the nice
> fonts, the buttons, eeps, colors and all the rest.
>
>         My friend Rich Starkey is a Windows whiz.  He can
> put every table up on the screen at the same time.  He uses
> this feature to see every table affected by a form and
> ensure that all the updates were made correctly.  The secret
> is to open them from the object manager, then change to the
> size you want, move it, and open another.
>
>         All of the 'windows' are hot -- in other words, you
> point to one and can edit or whatever.
>
>         So I tried the same thing in ConComp by going to the
> object manager and selecting the Forms tab.  I highlighted
> employee, pressed run and sized it smaller.  Then I
> highlighted Product and pressed run and sized it smaller,
> and moved it so it did not cover the previous table.   Now I
> have two forms with a smaller size, on the screen at the
> same time.
>
>         I can click on Employee Information and use F8 to
> see the next employees, and F7 to go back.  Then if I click
> on product information, I can use the Next Row and Previous
> Row buttons to see other products.  The key is that I do not
> have to close either form in order for the other to work.
>
>         I decide to press my luck and run the product form
> again, and size it smaller.  Now I have two identical forms
> on my screen.  By clicking from one to the other, I can see
> two different products at the same time.  Each form works
> independently.  And you can click from one to the other
> without closing anything.  Incidentally I was not able to
> open and size a report -- it seems to take the whole screen.
>
>         Right now I have four tables and three forms showing
> on my screen.  I simply click on the form or table and it is
> live.
>
>         The question is whether this can be done with
> program commands, or whether it can only be accomplished
> using the object manager.
>
>         Now from your question and Rich Starkey I have
> learned another way to keep a lot of useful information and
> forms in front of me at the same time.  As a developer, this
> will give you the function you wanted.  But I don't know how
> to make it available to a user from a program.  If you issue
> the command EDIT USING product AT 0,0,600,500 a nice small
> form will appear on screen.  But that command has to be
> completed -- closed, before the next command is run.
> Calling a second form using the MDI feature will put them
> both up, but not click on one, then the other whenever,
> live.
>
>         If you figure out how to do it, I'm sure we would
> all like to see how.  [If we could just automate the
> commands used by the Object Manager ...]
>
>         Take care,
>
>         Randy Peterson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms
>
>
> > Randy,
> >
> > Controlling the size and the position of the form is a
> major step forward as
> > far as I'm concerned.
> >
> > It always seemed odd that whatever size R:Base was - and I
> like to have it
> > set to something just slightly smaller than full-screen -
> a form would
> > always fill that screen. For a large form that's no
> problem but for forms
> > with only a few fields it looked silly to me.
> >
> > Now I could, for example, pull up some data on the R:>
> screen, leave it
> > there and display a form to one side to do some editing.
> If I could move
> > from form to form, or report to form, then I could do
> things so much more
> > neatly.
> >
> > I agree that if you open forms from forms you have to
> close them in reverse
> > sequence although the "manual" implies otherwise. I
> haven't found any need
> > to use [Esc] every time though. As far as I know,
> whichever version of the
> > syntax I use all the normal buttons to exit work as
> expected.
> >
> > Hopefully, this is all rather academic and v7 will have
> whatever "problem"
> > there is here sorted out. In the mean time, however, I
> like being able to
> > place a single form wherever I want it over a background
> image or other
> > data.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alastair.
>
>
>
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