Yes, I noticed that too, Paula. I had only re-checked the syntax before I
originally reported the problem because it _had_ been working up to some
time in late August/early September. I presumed that there was no difference
between the methods for the two system tables (Sys_Forms2 and Sys_Forms3).

If it ain't broke I don't tend to fix it unless some change is advised. I've
made the change and Unload is fine.

Thanks & regards,
Alastair.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paula Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: URGENT: Heads Up for anyone using the BACKUP command


> Alistair
>
> I've been using the UNLOAD command all along, and that works
> fine (I'm using build 77 on XP Pro).  I've never used the Backup
> command.  However, I note in your sample from the HELP file that the
> code specifies Sys_Forms2 rather than Sys_Forms3.  Perhaps it's a left
> over from a prior version of Rbase?
>
> Paula Stuart
> 70 Summer Street
> Somerville, MA 02143
> 617-776-3367
> 617-388-1331 (Cell)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alastair
> Burr
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:49 AM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - URGENT: Heads Up for anyone using the BACKUP command
>
>
> As you can see from the messages below there appears to be a "problem"
> with the BACKUP command.
>
> When I first e-mailed RDCC on Saturday I had thought that it only
> occurred with a specific set of circumstances.
>
> After getting their reply on Sunday I made the change where I now knew
> my code to be wrong and everything was fine again. (Note the days -
> thanks RDCC/RBTI for the speedy response.)
>
> Unfortunately, since then I have discovered on checking all my other
> output files that there appears to be a more general problem and BACKUP
> does seem currently to always produce a zero-length file - but the .LOB
> looks okay size-wise.
>
> I can find no mention in any of the recent updates that refers to the
> BACKUP command being made obsolete or changed but if I have missed
> something then I apologise now.
>
> However, if you are (still) using BACKUP to save your data it may be
> worth checking to see if the files produced are as you would expect. I
> am using W98SE so it may only be a problem specific to that O/S.
> Nevertheless, being paranoid about having good backups I thought a
> warning to all to be worthwhile.
>
> Regards,
> Alastair.
>
> NB: I have also found good BACKUPs dated 26/08/2004 rather than the
> earlier date I gave below.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Backup from sys_forms/reports produces zero length file
>
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Has this been changed? The example in the help for BACKUP shows:
> >
> > The following command lines show how to transfer a form to a new
> > database. The first five command lines open the olddb database, set
> > the null value to -0-, create the TEMPFORM.DAT file on drive D:, back
> > up the data from
> the
> > sys_forms2 table that contains the definition of the oldform form, and
>
> > redirect the output to the screen. Command lines six through eight
> > open
> the
> > newdb database in order to transfer the oldform form definition (the
> > database you open must not have a form named oldform), set the null
> > value to -0-, and load the form definition from the backup file into
> > the sys_forms2table.
> >
> > CONNECT olddb
> > SET NULL -0-
> > OUTPUT d:tempform.dat
> > BACKUP DATA FOR SYS_FORMS2 WHERE SYS_FORM_NAME = 'oldform' OUTPUT
> > SCREEN CONNECT newdb
> > SET NULL -0-
> > RUN d:tempform.dat
> >
> >
> > It's no problem to change it but it was working and the above will
> probably
> > mislead others...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alastair.
> >
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "RBG7 RDCC Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Backup from sys_forms/reports produces zero length file
>
>
> >
> > Dear Alastair,
> >
> > The correct syntax:
> >
> > UNLOAD DATA FOR Sys_Forms3 where sys_form_name = 'AllCopy'
> >
> > We thank you for your feedback.
> >
> > RBG7 R:DCC Staff.
> > ==============
> >
> >
> > At 05:52 PM 9/18/2004 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi, again - it looks like being one of those weekends!
> > >
> > >This set of commands has started producing the FileName.fle with no
> > >data in it although the .LOB file looks to be the expected size:
> > >
> > >OUTPUT FileName.fle
> > >BACKUP DATA FOR Sys_Forms3 where sys_form_name = 'AllCopy' OUTPUT
> > >SCREEN
> > >
> > >It happens with reports as well.
> > >
> > >I think it must have started some time ago as I have a procedure that
>
> > >backs up forms and reports based on data in the sys_comment column
> > >and
> the
> > >last good data is dated 17/08/2004. It has worked well for years so I
>
> > >don't often check the output anymore.
> > >
> > >Again, if this is in update #78 then apologies. Perhaps it would be
> useful
> > >to be able to view the "whatsnew" file without having to run the
> > >upgrade then it could be seen if what looks like new problem(s) have
> > >already been taken care of?
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Alastair.
> > >
> > >----------------------------------
> > >A D B Burr,
> > >St. Albans, UK.
> > >----------------------------------
> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >----------------------------------
> >
>

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