On May 10, 2009, at 10:02 AM, James Warren wrote:

> Just gotta share my Ram's weight data. First complete bike details:
>
> 64 cm frame
> Dura Ace Hub/Open Pro Rims with 32 Wheelsmith spokes F and R
> Ritchey Logic Triple Crank
> Jack Brown Green tires
> Brooks Ti rail saddle
> Nitto Frog seatpost (two-bolt)
> Technomic Deluxe Stem and Nitto Noodle Bar
> basic Tange or Shimano BB from Rivendell
> Shimano A520 pedals
> Ultegra longreach brakes, XT rear der, Ultegra triple front der, SRAM
> 11-34 cassette, bar-end shifters
>
> when I weighed it this way, 23 pounds. When I ride it, it never feels
> heavy.
>
> I've since changed from Techdlx to a CrMo Ritchey tig-welded stem (for
> fit reasons, not weight). I'm pretty sure that working hard to shed
> pounds from the bike would be unhealthy weight loss.

Oh, I think you could knock a pound off without too much difficulty  
but the question would remain whether it would be of significant  
benefit.  For a 64 cm bike with a triple and wide-range cassette,  
that's pretty light IMHO.

Replacing the 500+ gram saddle with one that weighs half as much  
would get you halfway there in one step.  I have recently discovered  
the WTB Pure V Pro which (so far on rides up to 45 miles) is more  
comfortable than any of my leather saddles have been, except for one  
Brooks Pro (which I have had since about 1977).  It weighs about 1/2  
of what a Brooks Pro weighs with the added benefit of not having to  
worry about it getting wet and ruined.  I am becoming an apostate!   
Good grief, what's next?  23 mm tires?

I could readily get my 60 cm 1996 All-Rounder under 25 lbs and  
probably under 23, but the fenders, generator lighting, front rack  
and handlebar bag would have to come off!  And I might have to switch  
the saddle (that bike has the old Pro on it, which is the most  
comfortable saddle I have ever ridden).

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