An Atlantis was high up on my list of possible bikes when I was in the market a
couple of years ago. I am heavy and the Atlantis seemed indicated from RBW
charts. However, I was in the 56 cm size and thus the bike had 26 in. wheels. I
did not think that the "fun" quality of the ride compared with the Saluki I
tested and the Bleriot I bought. An Atlantis with 650B might be an excellent
option. Just thinking. Jim D. Massachusetts (waiting for
Hurricane Bill to blow into town)
--- On Fri, 8/21/09, JL <subfas...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: JL <subfas...@gmail.com>
Subject: [RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:18 PM
IMHO Fork bends have much to do with order of operations (some
builders rake the fork first then cut the blades to length and braze
on the for ends) and technology (hand bending vs machine production).
Maybe it isn't so much that the Taiwan factory can't make the same
fork bend, it is more an issue that they aren't set up/trained to do
the same kinds of fork bends.
There have been some things said in this (super long) thread that
really make sense. IF the Atlantis is taken out of the line up that
will mean no more 26" wheeled bikes. Would this mean a phase out of
26" wheel support (assuming once all old stock is sold out etc)? I'm
not trying to start rumors here, just speculation for the sake of the
thread. I hope riv finds a solution for the Atlantis situation
because of all the reasons that have already been mentioned - it is
there "flagship" model so to speak. In addition I think the current
line up cover the scope of the Atlantis - from AHH, to Hilborne, to
Bombadill, any one of these three models can be a replacement for the
Atlantis depending on the desired use. I think, if I understand the
complaints (both on and off of this list) that might prevent someone
from buying one of these models instead: 650b is still a weirdo wheel
size, new models don't have as classic a look (sloping top tube, one
color paint etc), double top tubes are ugly, weight concerns (either
too heavy for desired bike or worried bike is too heavy). Ironically
it may have been that many of the changes in the past 4 or 5 years
have been do to feedback and requests. I think it all comes down to
nostalgia. The Atlantis (2) is a fine bike that has come to represent
Rivendell as a company. I hope they are able to keep it as part of
the line up. It seems plausible to move production to Taiwan, use the
same lugs (as mentioned earlier there is no need for new, simple lugs,
the Atlantis lugs already exist), the same geometry, same fork crown,
the same tubing thickness (actual tubing may need to change based on
availability), figure out a way to paint it nicely (or powdercoat
which tends to be more environmentally friendly) and still bring it in
framesets that retail under $2000. Maybe they can shoot for half the
distance between other models and end up at $1500 for a two color
paint, concessions made when needed Taiwan Atlantis.
jason
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