could just be that your tire more readily picks up small shards in the rain, held by the surface tension of water. They make more trips around and get pressed into the rubber - good argument for tire wipers.
On Monday, March 17, 2014 2:43:43 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > "Interestingly, I got all my flats during the times of rain that we > encountered. I got no flats when the road was dry. I understand that > things get washed loose when it rains, but 5 rainy flats vs 0 dry flats > seems even more skewed than normal. " > > I always blame that on the fact that bits of glass are nearly invisible > when the road is wet. That and Murphy's Law, of course. Some people have > speculated that wet and sharp things slice into your tire more easily than > those same sharp things do when dry. > > On Monday, March 17, 2014 12:27:06 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: >> >> I agree with you Philip. I weigh 270 and I get lots of flats on wider >> tires, including 5 flats on this last weekend's Houston Randonneurs 600K. >> >> Interestingly, I got all my flats during the times of rain that we >> encountered. I got no flats when the road was dry. I understand that >> things get washed loose when it rains, but 5 rainy flats vs 0 dry flats >> seems even more skewed than normal. >> >> I also replaced the tire after flat #3, and I still got 2 more flats. If >> I would have had a rock hard tire like a Continental Gatorskin that would >> have been more flat resistant, I would have put it on after the 5th flat. >> I had no more spare tubes after that and I am not particularly good at >> patching tubes. >> >> Let's just say it was quite an interesting ride. At the 315 mile mark, I >> got to the control with 3 minutes to spare. Thankfully, I was able to make >> up some of the time between there and the end thanks to a very strong >> tailwind. >> >> Some of the other things that the ride featured was pulling off the road >> multiple times for a race to let the various pelotons go by, riding on the >> shoulder of a freeway, cows that chose to run alongside the fence as we >> rode, wading over flooded water crossings (not recommended!), the passage >> of a cold front, nearly perpendicular wind and rain, and the aforementioned >> arrival with 3 minutes to spare a control. I'm super sore. >> >> Well anyway better get back to my nap....err I mean, work. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Philip Williamson <philip.w...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> I weigh 240 lbs as well (more, recently), and have plenty of flats on >>> fatter tires, too. I do feel fast on the Vee Rubber "Flying V" and the Soma >>> C-Lines. Flying Vs are tubeless, the C-Lines have tire savers (wire >>> thornflickers). I got a flat in a C-line as soon as I changed gears (fixed) >>> and didn't re-adjust the tire saver to graze the tire. >>> >>> One set of tires starts leaking as soon as the pressure hits 60lbs. I >>> think there's a wire in the tread that isn't exposed to the tube until the >>> pressure expands everything. >>> >>> So I think some of the "fewer flats" benefits of wider tires are >>> reserved for lighter riders. >>> >>> Philip >>> www.biketinker.com >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:01:18 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I will preface this post by saying that I tend to not have the most >>>>> nuanced tastes with anything, i.e. wine, food, cars. But I have 3 >>>>> Rivendells. Homer, Hunqa and Roadeo. I by far put the most miles on my >>>>> Homer, which I've had for 3 years now. I've mostly run Riv tires, >>>>> although >>>>> I had Schwalbe Marathon Racer 28s when I got it. They were the first >>>>> tires >>>>> wider than 23s I had used. Contrary to everything I've read, I rarely had >>>>> flats on my old, too small, stiff, go-fast Cannondale, and before that a >>>>> go-fast Raleigh, but once I went to the wider Schwalbes on the Homer, I >>>>> had >>>>> flat after flat. I was careful about mounting and air pressure, and I was >>>>> putting in lots of miles training for a cross country, Southern Tier >>>>> ride. >>>>> It was really frustrating. I'll bet that season I had close to 20 flats. >>>>> I >>>>> switched to Roly Polys later that year and had fewer flats, but still >>>>> much >>>>> more than the old 23s pumped to 110psi. I've mostly ridden Jack Browns >>>>> since. With all these tires I have never felt that I was faster or >>>>> smoother >>>>> than any other tire. The biggest difference in comfort to me has been >>>>> higher volume, lower pressure, which has had me leaning more toward >>>>> Grant's >>>>> tire philosophy. Las spring I bought a set of Gran Bois Extra Legers, the >>>>> light, supple tire, after reading Jan's blog. Again, I didn't feel like I >>>>> was riding any faster, and the Jan's recommendation is to go with a bit >>>>> higher pressure due to the suppleness of the sidewalls, and thus the ride >>>>> was not as cushy as the Jack Brown's. I have to add that I had put on a >>>>> lot >>>>> of weight, nearly 40 lbs, to around 240, so I can't imagine feeling fast >>>>> on >>>>> any tire. But I had flat issues and after not all that many miles the tan >>>>> sidewalls began to show threads. I came to the conclusion that Jan was >>>>> not >>>>> wrong, but that I was too heavy for such a supple tire. Now this year >>>>> I've >>>>> lost weight and to encourage me have set a goal to ride brevets again. I >>>>> continue to read Jan's blog and want to try his new line of Compass >>>>> tires. >>>>> I've ordered the Stampede Pass 32s to replace my current Jack Browns. I >>>>> didn't get the extra light version this time. If Jan is right, and I tend >>>>> to think he is, then the decrease in rolling resistence over the course >>>>> of >>>>> a 200, 300 or 400km brevet should result in less riding time, or less >>>>> energy expended, or both. If it results in more flats, though, I have to >>>>> wonder if there is really a net gain. The tires should be here next week >>>>> and I'm looking forward to using them on training rides leading up to the >>>>> May 7th, 200km brevet. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. 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