Thanks, Ryan. It looks as if that would be too narrow a setup for the
Fargo's wide stays (even though they are indented). The
chainstay-to-chainstay distance (measuring from the outside of each) is
slightly more than 120 mm; add (2) 12.5-15-mm-thick crankarms and another 5
mm gap per side, and you are up to a minimum - well, as close as makes no
difference to what I've got now, which is just a bit more than160 mm -- I
could use a 110 mm spindle, I suppose but the Q saving would not be worth
the hassle or expense.

Oh well, the wide Q is annoying only for the first 1/2 mile or so.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, rcnute <rcn...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or
> so spacer on the drive side.  Whatever it is it was an improvement for me
> for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some
> reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay).
>
> Ryan
>
> On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q?
>> I wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with
>> the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main
>> cruising gear.)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Patrick "if narrow is good, narrower is better" Moore (who doesn't really
>> believe that).
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer <daba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside."
>>>
>>> That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5
>>> bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able
>>> to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
>>> David
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