I have the long one but I expect I'm much larger than you. (My Atlantis is a 68) I should have also mentioned that after trying the bar I changed very quickly to a longer stem with slightly less rise. I also seem to use a bit less front tire pressure with this bar but that varies considerably with snow conditions. In addition I have often decreased pressure in advance of tricky downhill sections to try to help with front wheel grip. If I get my weight back as much as I otherwise might.. I'm eating snow pretty quickly ..but of course my skills are pretty lame when it comes to any technical riding. It's a good thing snow is mostly soft.
On Monday, April 28, 2014 11:01:29 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: > > Have you got the long Jones loop, or the shorter one? When I was > testriding, I tried the longer one, but didn't like it. The short one, > OTOH, is excellent. So far, the bar-end position is working for me on > descents, though maybe I just don't go down slippery descents. Usually I'm > trying to get my weight back, not forward, on descents. > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:15 PM, John Philip <japhil...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> My experience with the Jones Loop Bar is quite similar. I changed to the >> Loop Bar on my 9:ZERO:7 snow bike this winter and it quickly became clear >> that pegging my grip at the bar ends wasn't going to work. That position >> resulted in little front end control climbing but also a distinct lack of >> front wheel grip on slippery descents . Choking up-- really using the >> entire bar-- made a huge difference. I'm seldom on the ends unless i'm >> just cruising along on the flat and that's on well consolidated snow. I've >> yet to try them in the dirt but I'll give them and the 3.8 Knards a try >> soon. Over all I'm quite impressed with the bar. >> >> >> On Monday, April 28, 2014 9:20:46 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: >> >>> I bought the Krampus frame and had it build up, so I don't know anything >>> about the stock build. But the Jones bars have a lot of advantages. For >>> downhill, I like the wide bar-end position. I also like the wide position >>> for just boppin' along. If I want to move a little forward, I can just >>> "choke up" the bar ends, moving my hands about three inches in and forward, >>> and still have access to the brake levers. And if I want to move more >>> forward, I stick my thumbs inside the loop and grab. Definitely a lot of >>> hand positions. >>> >>> Plus, having the loop part works well for strapping things onto the bars >>> for camping. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Nils Eng <ni...@silvercca.org> wrote: >>> >>>> That makes sense to me-- you're moving weight forward. I'm super >>>> curious about that Jones bars. Would you mind giving some of your >>>> impressions? I'm especially curious about how they feel compared to the >>>> monster whammy bar that came with it. Hope your "tweaks" continue to work! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, April 25, 2014 9:27:22 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm a big fan of low, low gears. I have them on both my Atlantises; my >>>>> Roadeo has pretty low gears too considering I never carry much on it. >>>>> People always say to me, "I don't want lower gears because then I >>>>> couldn't >>>>> balance." I never understood that. I don't have a bit of problem riding >>>>> at >>>>> 2.5 mph for long periods of time when I'm climbing something ridiculously >>>>> steep on one of my Rivendell bikes. >>>>> >>>>> But now I understand. I thought when I bought my new Surly Krampus >>>>> mountain bike I'd be able to climb even steeper dirt roads than I now can >>>>> climb on my Atlanti. I thought, I have an absurdly low gear on the >>>>> Krampus >>>>> (15.6 inches, something like that), I have all the traction in the world, >>>>> I >>>>> can climb anything. >>>>> >>>>> But no. I'm finding that I climb *worse* on the Krampus. It's >>>>> frustrating. There are dirt sections that I have no trouble on with the >>>>> Atlantis, with smooth tires, that I can't climb on the Krampus with the >>>>> knobbies. >>>>> >>>>> What's going on here? Front-end geometry? Wheel weight? Bottom bracket >>>>> height? I'm beginning to think I should have bought the Surly ECR (like >>>>> several people recommended) instead of the Krampus. Or maybe I just need >>>>> to >>>>> learn how to climb on this new bike. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, when I bought the bike I also thought I'd be able >>>>> to go down steep trails that I'm afraid to descend on the Atlantis, and >>>>> that has proved to be true. My husband took one look at my new bike and >>>>> said, Wow, you have better traction on that than you have on foot. When I >>>>> apply the brakes on a steep downhill, the bike *slows down* instead of >>>>> skidding. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- Anne Paulson >>>>> >>>>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- Anne Paulson >>> >>> It isn't a contest. 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