I think it is the seams.   Nylon, seamless works well for me.  I
have    2 Brooks saddles that I ride frequently--The B17 is a dream
and I have an old Team Professional-also great.  Cotton and seams--not
good--I had lots of issues.

Cheers,
D

On Sep 16, 11:07 am, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Cotton is a poor choice for cycling underwear in most circumstances. I've 
> used the RBW sold Norwegian wool boxers as well as British army surplus 
> undyed wool boxers as liners under unpadded shorts with good results. I still 
> apply Bag Balm for both its anti-microbe and anti-friction qualities.
> For liners, I've really liked Zoic "assault" units that come in their 
> mountain bike style shorts like "Black Market" and "Ether". They are sold 
> seperately too: http://www.zoic.com/assaultliner  I think they are hands down 
> better than Andiamo and similar. They work well under MUSA shorts and you 
> don't see the "diaper".  The Zoic shorts are very comfortable as well and are 
> in a rotation with MUSA. 
> I wear liners when breaking in new leather saddles and on rides over about 30 
> miles.
> --- On Wed, 9/16/09, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Saddles
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> I don't like having to wear bike diapers, but admit that I haven't had this 
> problem since switching over to the REI Novara liners underneath MUSA shorts.
>
> DE
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