Hi Joe,
I agree with you about the Riv handling-- the ride of the Hunqapillar is 
just special compared to other bikes I've ridden.

I remembered this blinded tubing comparison from Bruce Gordon's site. 
"Steel vs Steel: Tange Prestige and Columbus SL"
http://www.bgcycles.com/frame-tubing-selection.html

Great Heron build, BTW.
shoji



On Friday, June 20, 2014 11:37:13 AM UTC-4, Hugh Flynn wrote:
>
> As a Heron Road owner, I can certainly agree with what you've described 
> below. 
>
> I've never really cared about the tubes or tube specs as I've assumed that 
> the great ride quality is the result of the geometry and careful tube 
> selection. Simply picking up the same tubes and making a different bike 
> with them would probably not generate the same result. It's a complete 
> package I think. 
>
> Hugh "Happy Herron" Flynn
> Newburyport, MA
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> My initial comments about my Heron Road generated a good bit of discussion 
> about the perceived wonderfulness of a specific tube, which has been 
> interesting and informative, but possibly misses a salient fact about said 
> bicycle: I've owned several Grant-designed bikes, and they all have an 
> hard-to-describe-if-you-haven't-experienced-it ability to float comfortably 
> down the road; hold a stable line in a turn; yet snap into a different 
> direction on a whim. I've ridden enough other bikes in 25 years to know 
> this is not an universal quality in frame design, which is one of the 
> things that makes Rivendells (and Riv-designed Herons) special. Of course 
> the tubes chosen for each model/size are part of the equation, but I 
> suspect the geometries they are placed into make more of a difference in 
> the ride/handling than the specific properties of the tube themselves. This 
> would be my guess, at any rate. 
>
> Joe "I can follow the path, I can read the signs. Stay right with it when 
> the road unwinds" Bernard
> Vallejo, CA
>
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