I would like to add that, although I am not a big Shimano fan, the RD 6700 is a fabulous derailler. A Silver version would be even more fabulous.
Michael On Thursday, July 3, 2014 12:30:15 PM UTC-4, grant wrote: > > It's not a deep rooted love of patchwork parts that's stopping SILVER (of > course)--although I have to admit that I personally have a DRL of them. But > from RIV's perspective, I'd love to have a group. Here's what's stopping it. > > 1. Derailers.If it's not an original design(to some degree--obviously we > wouldn't start from scratch), then it's just private label, and I've always > thought just putting one's own label on an existing produts was half wimpy. > Not immoral, not making any judgments here, but it's always bugged me in a > tiny way, and I try to steer clear. It may happen now and then (nothing > comes to mind), and it's possible something's even slipped through already > and been forgotten, but my DREAM derailer would be a monster-pulley > rapid-riser, maybe with a slow-riser option for those not ready to take the > rapid-rise plunge. But derailers are complicated to make, and the makers > want volume we can't come close to. > > Come to think of it, the SILVER shifter is just a copy of the SunTour > Sprint--but in this case I don't feel slimy, because SunTour had no > interested in remaking it under its label or any other--but was happy to > provide tech assistance and parts suppliers support to Dia-Come/Tech, the > SilverShifterMaker. > > 2. As for redesigning or original designing parts in general...first there > should be a need that's not being filled. The GigantiPulley RR rear der is > one of them, although "need" is being stretched. Front derailers, I know > our mechanics would have some ideas on that, although most would involve > Not Requiring Shims to fit what we still consider to be a normal seat tube > diameter. The current shim necessity is not worth crying too much over, I > think. A small case could be made that shims make a gentler contact point, > although that's looking too hard for a silver (npi) lining, > > The crank will be dreamy, but the Sugino is just so good. It's hard to > make a case for the crank, except that at some point Sugino will quit > making the XD-2 or whatever we're supposed to call it, and then we'd be > stuck with nothing special (no offense if your favorite crank isn't > recognized here). > > Dang, the SILVER hubs violate our "no mere private label" ideal. We tried > to reshape the body, and it could be done, but it was thousands upon > thousands and high minimums to do that, and it was all for a superficial > uniqueness that ended up not making sense. So the SILVER hubs are an only > slightly unique combination of stock-available features from the hub maker. > We went with the best of everything and the quietest freewheeling (a matter > of how much grease is in there). > > But still in general, we like to fill in gaps rather than just fill out a > whole line. It would be so great to have, like, funding for this > stuff---but it's better to have a group like this who supports and > encourages and keeps us going day by day, so thanks to all of you. > > G > > On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:03:35 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: >> >> Been reading about Campagnolo and his history in the new BQ mag. >> Very interesting. >> I think the idea of groupsets is really cool, especially if RBW had a >> "Silver" groupset to sell one day. >> >> I don't think that will ever happen because they seem to like a patchwork >> of parts for their bikes, *which makes total sense*, so you can build it >> as functionally as possible with no restrictions to the parts you want for >> your needs. >> >> But it would be cool to have everything on the bike matching "Silver"! >> >> So far you can patch together a Silver 4-piece group: sidepull brakes, >> BE/DT shifter levers, chainrings, and a Hupe. >> >> Top it off with one of those Rivendell Rider Brooks saddles if you can >> find one! >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
