Hey there! I'm away from Rivendell (and email) until Wednesday, July 16th. If you need immediate assistance please call 925-933-7304 or 800-345-3918. Cheers, keven
On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:48 AM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's topic summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics > * Ride Report: An account of my circumnavigation of the Great > Lake Ontario on an A. Homer Hilsen. [1 Update] > * Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches [5 Updates] > * Sam Hillborne brochure and silver tubes [1 Update] > * Virtual Entmoot Ride Reports [4 Updates] > * Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco [3 Updates] > * Link To My Entmoot Pictures [1 Update] > * Looks like Diablo Entmoot camping will not happen tonight [1 > Update] > * Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed? [5 Updates] > * My Riv-ish Burley Tandem Build [2 Updates] > * BORAF [1 Update] > * FS: Hunqapillar 58cm [1 Update] > Ride Report: An account of my circumnavigation of the Great Lake Ontario on > an A. Homer Hilsen. > * Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com> Jul 15 11:33AM -0700 > * > * Nice write-up. > * > * When I got to the part about Toronto, I almost laughed. You > nailed it! > * That's pretty much what this city is like; reckless hooligan > car-nation > * drivers. I saw my partner nearly hit (and probably nearly > killed) by a > * speeding driver right in front of me. It was a very close call, > within a > * few inches. One of the countless scary encounters I've had > while cycling in > * this city. > * > * Why did you not follow the Waterfront Trail along the lake, > instead of > * going through the suburban wasteland to the north? > * > * KJ > * Toronto, Canada > * > * > * On Monday, July 14, 2014 6:07:38 PM UTC-4, Iron Rider wrote: > * > Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches > * Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com> Jul 15 08:25AM > -0700 > * > * I was peer pressured into doing another run of patches! People > seemed to genuinely like them. > * Preorders are here: http://etsy.me/1ycii2f > * > * I have a few shirts left in various sizes. > * 2 XXL > * 2 XL > * 1 L > * 4 M > * They're $30 shipped. Email me before Paypal to see what's left. > Shirts are done. I will not make more. > * > * Anne made a convincing case for bandanas, but I'd need new > screens, and have to learn some new stuff. > * > * Thanks! > * Philip > * www.biketinker.com > * > * "Allingham II, Thomas J" <thomas.alling...@skadden.com> Jul 15 > 03:39PM > * > * Philip: > * > * Well, I'm a big bandanna fan; I'd order a few myself, at a cost > that would absorb some of the expense of the learning curve. But c'mon -- you > KNOW you love to learn new stuff. Kickstarter! > * > * Tom > * > * -----Original Message----- > * From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Williamson > * Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:26 AM > * To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > * Subject: [RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches > * > * I was peer pressured into doing another run of patches! People > seemed to genuinely like them. > * Preorders are here: http://etsy.me/1ycii2f > * > * I have a few shirts left in various sizes. > * 2 XXL > * 2 XL > * 1 L > * 4 M > * They're $30 shipped. Email me before Paypal to see what's left. > Shirts are done. I will not make more. > * > * Anne made a convincing case for bandanas, but I'd need new > screens, and have to learn some new stuff. > * > * Thanks! > * Philip > * www.biketinker.com > * > * -- > * You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > * To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > * To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > * Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > * For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > * > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > * **************************************************** > * > * This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for > use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged > and/or confidential information. 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They'll be tone-on-tone, like seafoam green > bandana, darker > * green artwork. Same idea for orangy-yellow or lightish blue. > Suggestions > * are welcome. > * > * Philip > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:39:06 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > * > * Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> Jul 15 10:35AM -0700 > * > * Oooooo! Oooooo! Oooooo! Grin. Yes. 24" x 24" and I'm in for 2-5 > depending > * on cost and budget timing. > * > * With abandon, > * Patrick > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:28:29 AM UTC-6, Philip Williamson > wrote: > * > * Pondero <cj.spin...@gmail.com> Jul 15 10:35AM -0700 > * > * > * > "Suggestions are welcome." > * > * I love the bandana idea and would support it. Philip, I suggest > keeping it > * simple and go with a large RBW logo, single color, as on the > blug. If you > * stay linked with the Entmoot, you could add Entmoot 2014 to the > mix. > * > * Chris Johnson > * Sanger, Texas > * > Sam Hillborne brochure and silver tubes > * RJM <crccpadu...@gmail.com> Jul 15 09:59AM -0700 > * > * I noticed the brochure for the Sam posted on the Blug today and > took a > * gander. Very well done piece of marketing...I love it. It makes > me want to > * buy another Hillborne and set it up for trail riding. > * > * > * > https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/rivbike/Sam+Hillborne+Brochure+2014 > * > * > * I read in there about Silver tubes being Riv's own design. I'm > wondering > * when these tubes started showing up on the Hillbornes. I have a > very early > * orange canti post Sam Hillborne, possibly even a first run of > the bike, and > * I was wondering if a new Sam would be different riding. Well, > probably > * since I currently have a 48 and the size I would get now would > be the 51, > * so that is different. The brochure says "Long story short, we > have more > * metal where it matters and less where it doesn't." with the > silver tubes. > * I really wonder if the new tubes (if they are indeed new) would > ride > * differently than the older Sam. Any thoughts? Any first hand > experience? > * > Virtual Entmoot Ride Reports > * Amit Singh <asd...@gmail.com> Jul 15 09:25AM -0700 > * > * Hello! > * > * Pictures from part of my experience at the Entmoot here: > * > * https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/sets/72157645286922999/ > * > * With all the beautiful scenery, bicycles and people in > attendance it felt > * like a sacred magical lugged steel ground. There was a lot of > love in one > * place that night. > * > * Some of my favorite memories not captured in pictures were > Grant and I > * talking yogurt and him also looking for a buckeye tree in the > deep wood to > * make a slingshot, Manny walking around camp in and riding a > bike in his red > * onesie and also the glee on people's faces when they realized > they were > * secretly pocket-pooh'd in the night, listening to Rich's > explaining to me > * what wife is like (she sounds wonderful to have stopped Rich in > his tracks > * and I hope to meet her!), getting bear-hugged from Esteban and > listening to > * what he learned from his retreat on the east-coast, seeing the > giant man > * ABCycleHank and his telling me that he was upset for not making > the trip to > * Detroit before I moved to the west coast (October, let's do a > 200k brevet > * back in the D!), meeting Jim Edgar with his big smile and open > arms, > * listening to how Philip's son has changed from making > super-animated and > * expressive stick-figures to a more accomplished 13-year old > artist and > * video game pro, seeing Beth ride past the boys on her Betty > flying up and > * down the hills, talking with Andy about why more people like us > don't exist > * and how lucky we are to be riding bikes together, talking with > Aaron about > * raising his 4 children and working at the same time and the > sacrifices that > * need to be made to do it the right way, getting bear hugged > again from the > * entire So-Cal crew (Hugh, especially), being reunited with my > dear friend > * Dustin and hearing about is success and positive trajectory, > meeting Jenny > * and explaining to her what the word "lacchak" means in Punjabi > and why her > * bicycle has it, meeting Toshi and listening to what his > experiences of > * riding 600k brevets are like, seeing the delightful couple > Scott and > * Elizabeth and talking with them about riding bicycles at Folsom > lake and > * vegetarian recipes, Manny saving our butts from getting shot by > the park > * ranger for riding trails by the supermoon light and finally > seeing a huge > * number of Rivendell lovers from across the country in one > place. It was a > * magical weekend indeed. > * > * On Saturday, 12 July 2014 16:12:14 UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > * > * "Allingham II, Thomas J" <thomas.alling...@skadden.com> Jul 15 > 04:36PM > * > * Well, I was already sad about missing the event. Imagine how I > feel now! ore reason (reasons, plural!) to make it an annual event. It does > sound "magical" - an appropriate term for an Entmoot. > * > * From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Amit Singh > * Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:25 PM > * To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > * Subject: [RBW] Re: Virtual Entmoot Ride Reports > * > * Hello! > * > * Pictures from part of my experience at the Entmoot here: > * > * https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/sets/72157645286922999/ > * > * With all the beautiful scenery, bicycles and people in > attendance it felt like a sacred magical lugged steel ground. There was a lot > of love in one place that night. > * > * Some of my favorite memories not captured in pictures were > Grant and I talking yogurt and him also looking for a buckeye tree in the > deep wood to make a slingshot, Manny walking around camp in and riding a bike > in his red onesie and also the glee on people's faces when they realized they > were secretly pocket-pooh'd in the night, listening to Rich's explaining to > me what wife is like (she sounds wonderful to have stopped Rich in his tracks > and I hope to meet her!), getting bear-hugged from Esteban and listening to > what he learned from his retreat on the east-coast, seeing the giant man > ABCycleHank and his telling me that he was upset for not making the trip to > Detroit before I moved to the west coast (October, let's do a 200k brevet > back in the D!), meeting Jim Edgar with his big smile and open arms, > listening to how Philip's son has changed from making super-animated and > expressive stick-figures to a more accomplished 13-year old artist and video > game pro, seeing Beth ride past the boys on her Betty flying up and down the > hills, talking with Andy about why more people like us don't exist and how > lucky we are to be riding bikes together, talking with Aaron about raising > his 4 children and working at the same time and the sacrifices that need to > be made to do it the right way, getting bear hugged again from the entire > So-Cal crew (Hugh, especially), being reunited with my dear friend Dustin and > hearing about is success and positive trajectory, meeting Jenny and > explaining to her what the word "lacchak" means in Punjabi and why her > bicycle has it, meeting Toshi and listening to what his experiences of riding > 600k brevets are like, seeing the delightful couple Scott and Elizabeth and > talking with them about riding bicycles at Folsom lake and vegetarian > recipes, Manny saving our butts from getting shot by the park ranger for > riding trails by the supermoon light and finally seeing a huge number of > Rivendell lovers from across the country in one place. It was a magical > weekend indeed. > * > * On Saturday, 12 July 2014 16:12:14 UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > * In addition, if you've posted your photos to Flickr, add them > to the Virtual Entmoot Group: > * https://www.flickr.com/groups/entmoot2014/ > * > * We've got some great photos already popping up in there! > * > * With abandon, > * Patrick > * -- > * You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > * To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > * To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>. > * Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > * For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > * > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > * **************************************************** > * > * This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for > use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged > and/or confidential information. 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I am so delighted so much Entmooting happened! > * > * With abandon, > * Patrick > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:25:05 AM UTC-6, Amit Singh wrote: > * > * Shoji Takahashi <shoji.takaha...@gmail.com> Jul 15 09:57AM > -0700 > * > * Yes-- thanks, Amit, for the pics and write up! > * > * > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:36:47 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: > * > Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco > * Kurt Manley <kurtaman...@gmail.com> Jul 15 06:54AM -0700 > * > * If I was doing it and had the time I'd do it in two days taking > the basic > * route that Eric mentioned. You could take a direct route from > Sac~SF but it > * wouldn't be a very nice ride in my opinion. If you head through > Napa and > * Marin you're riding through some incredibly beautiful areas. It > could be > * done in a day but I like to have time to stop and explore, take > pictures, > * ect. so I'd plan on camping along the way. > * have fun! > * > * > * > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:18:04 AM UTC-7, Carl Otto Wollin > wrote: > * > * Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com> Jul 15 09:55AM -0500 > * > * Nice, Eric! I want to ride this sometime when i am out that way > visiting > * relatives. Is available as RUSA permanent? > * > * Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> Jul 15 09:46AM -0700 > * > * I plan to submit this as a perm sometime. For now, it's just a > fun ride. > * > * BTW, this route has been much improved in the past few years > with the widening of Hwy 12. There is now a nice, wide bike lane along the > highway between Napa and Sonoma. > * > * --Eric N > * www.CampyOnly.com > * CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com > * Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > * > * > Link To My Entmoot Pictures > * cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> Jul 15 09:01AM -0700 > * > * Okay, there has to be some way to fave an entire flickr set! > * > * Cheers, > * David > * > * "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal > * > * > * > * > * > * > Looks like Diablo Entmoot camping will not happen tonight > * hsmitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> Jul 15 08:25AM -0700 > * > * Yeah while still @ China Camp we did a survey for camping > attendance at Mount Diablo it would hav been just three and plus the 95F > forecast it was an easy decision so Doug, Curtis and I went over to Montana. > Rode Planet of the Apes. Great ride great day and 30 degrees cooler. > * > * ~Hugh > * > Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed? > * Cyclofiend Jim <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> Jul 15 07:17AM -0700 > * > * I've only had one chain fail on me. Attributed it to my sloth > in > * monitoring. One of the tendancies I've noted is that on a > simple > * drivetrain (fixed/SS) you tend to just blissfully humm along > without worry > * - everything always works. Until it doesn't. On the chain that > failed > * - https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4781439710 - I think > it was > * seriously stretched. > * > * I've typically used 8 speed, but started using a chain tool > after the > * failure. > * > * There's a lot more chain stress on a derailleury bike, of > course - at least > * laterally. I tried a 1/8" chain on my SS mtb and didn't like it > - too much > * noise and lateral movement on the sprockets and I didn't want > to change > * everything to the wider stuff. > * > * - Jim / cyclofiend.com > * > * Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> Jul 15 07:27AM -0700 > * > * Thanks, Jim. That makes sense. In my case, I put the chain on > new when I > * got the QB in Mid May, and I doubt the chain has stretched too > much in the > * ensuing two months. I will watch that though. > * > * I did visually attempt to make the pin I pushed in with the > chain tool > * match the others exactly. > * > * With abandon, > * Patrick > * > * Shoji Takahashi <shoji.takaha...@gmail.com> Jul 15 07:48AM > -0700 > * > * Hi Patrick, > * Once you've got the right length set for the bike, it's easy to > cut a new > * chain to size. Just hang 'em side by side. The old one (that > was the right > * length) will be a little longer due to stretch, but you should > be able to > * figure out where to cut the new chain. > * > * Watch those toes! > * Shoji > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 7:46:38 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick > wrote: > * > * Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com> Jul 15 09:51AM -0500 > * > * I've had several chains break that weren't stretched. I have > the Park tool > * thingy that checks for stretch. I attributed it to my heavy > weight of > * 250+, and maybe running less oil in the past than i do now. > With the low > * cost of 9 speed chains i just replace them every 3-4 months now > (since i > * picked back up with my Rando riding that's around 1500-2000 > miles or so). > * > * Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com> Jul 15 08:00AM > -0700 > * > * Thanks for the Wipperman 1/8" chain info. > * > * Philip > * www.biketinker.com > * > My Riv-ish Burley Tandem Build > * L Mark Finch <lmarkfi...@gmail.com> Jul 14 07:06PM -0700 > * > * I concur that it's older than a '93. My wife and I bought ours > when we got > * married in 1993, and the graphics are different and it has > 700s. The only > * things on ours that are different from stock are the seats, > tires, > * handlebar tape and rear rack. I do like the idea of mustache > bars, since > * that's what I have on two other bikes. > * > * > <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lPXzcUt0dwY/U8SLE1rkEPI/AAAAAAAAEK0/MeWdtTlrgLw/s1600/burley.jpg> > * > * > * On Monday, June 30, 2014 12:07:19 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: > * > * Tony DeFilippo <vpi...@gmail.com> Jul 15 10:24AM -0400 > * > * Mark, > * > * Great looking tandem! Thanks for sharing the picture and > helping with the > * dates. I like the bend in your fork, much nicer looking than > the straight > * one on mine. The basic frame design does look extremely similar > though > * including the continuous bend chain/seat stay. I guess that > must be > * straight guage tubing?!? > * > * I'm really thrilled with ours, and the moustache bar build with > brooks > * flyer saddles has opened up the comfort considerably. Now I > just need to > * rig some kind of overhead hooks on a pully so I can store it in > the garage > * with less impact to floor space. > * Tony > * > BORAF > * Minh <mgiangs...@gmail.com> Jul 15 07:08AM -0700 > * > * Not to pile on, but given how much sensitivity there is around > this, and > * all the conspiracy > * theories > http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/07/news/timeline-details-alberto-contadors-tour-ending-crash_336328 > > * > * i'm wondering why they just don't admit that no-one really > knows what > * happened? There is no video at the moment and maybe never. Sure > maybe the > * frame snapped and he crashed, but maybe he crashed and the > frame snapped. > * But why is everyone so fast to assume the frame broke first? > * > * > * On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:34:19 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: > * > FS: Hunqapillar 58cm > * Rick Stephens <rstephen...@gmail.com> Jul 14 03:27PM -0700 > * > * Pictures > * > https://plus.google.com/photos/118293034154206127583/albums/6036008362206689121 > * > * Due to a change in plans, I am selling my Rivendell. > * > * The bike was built up by Rivendell and delivered in 2011. I am > the > * original owner. The bike has not been used much (maybe 30-40 > miles). The > * only distractions are light scuffing on the saddle and bar end > * shifters...these can be seen in the photos. Otherwise, the bike > is in > * excellent to mint condition. > * > * Frame: 58cm Hunqapiller > * > * Handlebar: Albatross bar 55cm Cr Moly > * > * Stem: Nitto > * > * Seat post: Nitto S83 > * > * Saddle: Brooks B17 > * > * Drivetrain: Sugino XD2 triple 172.5 46x36x24 / 8sp cassette > * 11-32 / Shimano Deore XT derailer > * > * Wheels: Rich Lesnik built 36h Velocity Synergy with Shimano LX > hubs DT > * swiss spokes > * > * Tires: Shwalbe marathon dureme 50-622 > * > * Brakes: Shimano cantilevers with tektro brake levers > * > * > * > * Asking $2600.00 includes shipping for continental U.S. > * > * Bike will be packed in an AirCaddy container > * > * Paypal accepted > * > * > * > * The bike is located in Colorado Springs. > * If interested please contact me at rstephen...@gmail.com > * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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