Could the large ring be slightly out of lateral true?  I've had that cause 
derailleur issues before...  in fact I had several instances of lateral 
run-out until I started greasing the BB spindles before installing cranks.  
Haven't had the issue since.

Anton


On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:37:00 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> The chainline is dead centered on the middle ring - I had the LBS check 
> that and they performed the check while I was present.  The 113 BB is the 
> one that is recommended by Sugino for the crankset.  If I added a spacer 
> between the middle and big ring, it seems like it would lead to chain 
> suck.  But I am open to the idea.
>
> I have bar-ends, the front derailer is not indexed.  The rear is but I am 
> not sure how this would make a difference.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Will <waller....@gmail.com <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> What's the chain line look like? Maybe you need a spacer (or remove a 
>> spacer) for the cog-set and also, a different length spindle/BB cartridge. 
>> I mention adjusting chain line, since you have already worked on derailer 
>> limits and it may be the chain wheels are slightly out of position for the 
>> limiters.    
>>
>> Alternatively, you could go to non-indexed shifters.   
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:13:40 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had my Rivendell for approximately 9 years now. During this time 
>>> I have continually had problems with overshifting of the front derailer.  
>>> This has continued through 4 different cranksets, two or three different 
>>> front derailers, different brands of chains, different casettes, different 
>>> LBSs tinkering with it and so forth.  Not to mention my own tinkering.  
>>> I've theorized that maybe the seat tube angle on my bike is different than 
>>> others due to the large size of my bike - 69cm, but I don't really know.
>>>
>>> I had given up on the problem and just rode the chain back on to the big 
>>> ring if it came off that way, or stopped and put it back on the granny if 
>>> it came off that way.
>>>
>>> I just recently as in last week switched to a Deore SGS derailer, so 
>>> super long cage.  With so much longer of a cage, it pulls the chain back a 
>>> lot father now when it comes off the big ring and I am afraid of something 
>>> catastrophic happening like the chain getting tangled up in the spokes.  So 
>>> there is a renewed urgency to do something about it.
>>>
>>> The current front derailer is a Campy Racing T, which from what I read 
>>> on the Internet is supposed to be good at shifting compact triples.  I am 
>>> currently running a Sugino XD600 46/36/26 crankset and also using Shimano 9 
>>> speed bar ends.  If it makes a difference.
>>>
>>> I read something on the 650B list about bending in the leading tip of 
>>> the outer plate to prevent overshifting.  I really don't want to trash a 
>>> perfectly good front derailer but I'd be willing to try it if there was a 
>>> reasonable expectation of it being successful.  To quote:
>>>
>>> "On my last successful Ritchey crank build I used an NOS first 
>>> generation Shimano deer head with said alignment and the leading tip of the 
>>> outer plate bent in to better keep the 9spd chain from over shifting when 
>>> coming back up onto the big ring."
>>>
>>> Or is there a different derailer model I should be using?  I'm open to 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! 
>>>
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