It ain't 8 speed chains!
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > So what's your secret? > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:45 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Patrick, >> >> I ride at the base of the California foothills five days a week, I climb >> hills in both high and low gears depending on my mood. >> >> Matt >> >> On Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:34:59 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> I get 2K miles out of SRAM 8 speed chains, and I am careful about >>> keeping them lubed and clean. This mileage is consistent whether waxing or >>> the wipe 'n' lube method, generally performed every ~200 miles. Sub 10 >>> speed doesn't help.(FWIW, I got the same miles out of the one 10 speed >>> chain I used, a high quality Wipperman.) >>> >>> I am beginning to think that chain wear is affected largely by torque: >>> climb in high gears and you wear your chain faster. Thoughts? >>> >>> (Even with my derailleur bikes I tend to mash on climbs.) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> EricK, I couldn't agree more. I replace my 8/9-speed chains at about >>>> 6,000 miles and they show very little wear (SRAM). I do it just because I >>>> suppose I should :<( I also use a Teflon product that I apply once a week >>>> every 200+ miles. If riding in the rain I cut application times in half. I >>>> never clean my chain and only wipe it off when I think I should. Here's >>>> the product I use. It's about $5 a can at Lowes Home Center and lasts a >>>> long time: >>>> >>>> http://www2.dupont.com/Consumer_Lubricants/en_US/ >>>> products/multi_use_lubricant.html >>>> >>>> I do not understand the 2,000 mile replacement or the cleaning >>>> rituals. The Sram 850 cassette is at most $25 and a replacement Sugino 600 >>>> crank (two arms and three rings) is roughly $100. Both last a long long >>>> time and the crank rings at least twice as long as the cassette. So >>>> inexpensive it almost makes buying replacement parts poor economics. >>>> >>>> Anyone ever wonder what the difference is between the different Sram >>>> chains? (ex. 830 vs. 850). I'm not 100% sure but I believe it is the >>>> hardness of the pins. The harder the pins the longer it will last ... with >>>> proper lubrication of course. >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:46:05 PM UTC-7, EricK wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There's a fair amount of sand on the roads in the desert. I tend to >>>>> the chain about every 300 miles. A swim in OMS and then some FL teflon >>>>> dry. >>>>> >>>>> Replace every 2k miles? That's interesting. One of the benefits I >>>>> enjoy by using sub-10sp drivetrains is not having to change the chain >>>>> every >>>>> 2000-2500 miles. The 9sp chain I cleaned last week is coming up on 6k >>>>> miles and shows very modest wear yet (less than 0.25%). >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >>> Other professional writing services. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >>> >>> ************************************* >>> * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to >>> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from >>> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* >>> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to >>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind >>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into >>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your >>> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is >>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was >>> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, >>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where >>> in your time and your body can they be?* >>> * "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. >>> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where >>> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of >>> you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > > ************************************* > * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to > never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from > it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* > * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to > look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind > it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into > somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your > daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is > all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was > any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, > because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where > in your time and your body can they be?* > * "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. > "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where > Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of > you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ************************************* * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
