Erl-

I used Tektro R559 brakes, but recently received a set of Paul Racers in a
trade and now use them.  They're both good brakes.  The Pauls feel
stronger; maybe they're less flexy.

My Riv had a 170 Campy Racing Triple crank, and that's what I still use.  I
tried and liked a 170 Stronglight 105, which was gorgeous but really tricky
to shift well.  The Stronglight only worked with friction and a vintage
double derailleur; any triple I tried had a sculpted outer cage that would
hit the very low-Q crank.  I switched to Ergo shifters, so I put the Campy
triple back on and got it some new rings.

650 x 38 b is the max you can fit between the forks and chainstays,
horizontally.  It has decent fender room above the 38 tire.  SKS P45's
mount easily, and fit well with pretty good clearance.  I picked up a stick
and it folded up my rear P45, so now I'm running the Velo Orange "hammered"
650 x 45 mm fenders.  They are harder to mount and don't have as much
clearance, but they sure are purty.  If you get the SKS fenders, put a
safety release clip on the back too!  I'm installing PDW FMF safety tabs on
my VO fenders this weekend for the safety release.

However, the BB gets real low after conversion.  The switch from 622 x 28
to 584 x 38 results in another 9 mm of frame drop.  That's why the wise
elves in Walnut Creek don't recommend the Road Standard as a good candidate
for 650b conversion.  But, as some of us have demonstrated, it works fine
but you must be careful not to pedal when leaned over.  I've done
singletrack on my 650b Road, but on a trail with very few log-overs or
other "straddle" obstacles.

If you already are building it up 700c, then I'd recommend trying the
Cerfs.  They ride really great for such a skinny tire.  Then keep an eye
out for some used 650b wheels and R559 brakes on the list.  Without
fenders, one could change between 650b and 700c with a wheel and brake
caliper swap (assuming compatible gearing on both wheels).  Brake cable
quick releases would make it a quick process.


On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:01 AM, WETH <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bruce,
> Thanks for the help identifying the frame.
> On your road, what brakes are you using and what tire 650b tire size do
> you like?
> Thanks again,
> Erl
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:54:15 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>> Erl
>>
>> With a 96 production date, yours is a road standard. About this
>> time,iirc, they were switching to Italian dropouts. Technociclo or
>> something like that. My road is running 650b and feels great. A rider from
>> out of town came in on Sunday to test ride my road and my Saluki for
>> comparison. The verdict is that both were nice, but the road has a livelier
>> feel and is more desirable.
>>
>> Enjoy the build process and then enjoy the ride!
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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