I just bought a pair of those a month or so ago--they're not bad.  Fit
pretty true to size, pretty well made.  The elastic drawstring in the cuffs
is a little wonky but I haven't played with it much...

Steve

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Christian McMillen <
christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions so far everyone.  In the meantime I
> remembered about Zoic.  I have a pair of their shorts and really like
> them.  They make knickers too: http://www.zoic.com/reign-knicker.  AND:
> coincidentally they’re having a 50% off sale!
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:01 PM, hsmitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.prana.com/nemesis-knicker.html?color=darkkhakihristian,
>
> My knock on the new (don't have experience with the old style) is though
> baggy the waist was super tight with all the elastic, in my case size
> large. So I went with Prana' Nemesis Knickers. They're actually climbing
> knickers but have very little elastic other than the built in stretch of
> the fabric. The opening of the leg area flares some as opposed to cycling
> specific ones but doesn't bother me.
>
> I also wear their shorts made of the same fabric.
>
> My knock on other manufacturers of cycling knickers is how tight they are
> seeming in my use to be restricted in all the wrong places when in motion.
>
> YMMV.
>
> -Hugh
> los Angeles, CA
>
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