You make a valid point Grant.  I think a "USA-built Atlantis" is a more 
fair description and I'll try to refer to it that way in the future.  It is 
my understanding that the "Japan-built Atlantis" is every bit as good and I 
am sure I would be every bit as happy with one, as long as it fits me.  
I love my Sam and it's quality is certainly up there with the Atlantis.  
Thank you and the folks at Rivendell for designing such great bikes, no 
matter where they are built!

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:56:59 AM UTC-6, Grant Petersen wrote:
>
> Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our 
> hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some 
> models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came 
> from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here. 
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>
>>
>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o3XgYwYn8vI/VEqs9H-76JI/AAAAAAAABW0/ESvG7xSUoek/s1600/IMG_1740.JPG>
>> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
>> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
>> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
>> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
>> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
>> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
>> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
>> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
>> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
>> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>>
>

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