Let's close this thread, please.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Well if you are still reading this string, you must be interested in
> how a trade in good faith can go bad. Below is the email exchange
> between Johnny and I, chronology from bottom to top.
>
> The two email clients that Johnny is talking about are my login here:
> Mojo and my email address from home. Johnny answered my emails until
> 25Sep, then did not. Johnny mailed his pump on 16Sep, the day after he
> got mine. I sent him a weekly email on 1Oct and again on 8Oct keeping
> him informed of my no-pump arrival situation. Perhaps these emails did
> not reach him. But all my other emails to friends and family seem to
> have arrived OK.
>
> I understand Johnny is upset that I accused him of being a Scammer. I
> apologize. But I did go from 25Sep until 8Oct without a response from
> him. For me it wasn't about the pump, it was more about the trust.
>
> I have learned to not do a purchase or trade with any one in chat
> groups without giving and getting  a tracking number. That way actions
> are more transparent.
>
> By the way, no pump has arrived here as of Saturday mail delivery.
>
> I wish Johnny and all of you Happy Riding.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 8:07:38 AM
> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
>
> OK Johnny,
>
> Its been another week without your pump showing up here and now you
> are not talking to me. So what's up?
>
> I would hate to have to out you on the Riv list as a scammer.
> Wishing you Instant Karma
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> Sent: Thu, October 1, 2009 6:57:17 PM
> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
>
> Johnny,
>
> It has been another week, and over two weeks since you sent your pump,
> and 3 weeks since I sent mine. Still your pump has not arrived here.
> Do you have any tracking information on your package? What should we
> do now?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:34:20 AM
> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
>
> Well....it is odd.  The Medium I guess is the right size but it does
> not fit in tight.  It goes the length of the top tube and matches
> the
> length but is not tight so that even with a strap it will flop put
> of
> place if you hit it.  The large won't fit at all. It is a cm or so
> too big.  I guess the answer is a medium with two straps to hold it
> better.
>
> If you have a medium pump I could send this one back or I can just
> keep it and see if anyone will trade me a medium for it.  I could
> also
> figure out a price for the Quicker Pump and you could Paypal me. I
> would of course not expect any payment until it arrived at your house.
>
> Johnny
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Joe Ramey wrote:
>
> > Thanks for writing, No, still no pump. If you sent it non-Priority,
> > it can take awhile.
> >
> > So my Large and a Medium didn't work for you?
> >
> > What do you want so that I can keep the Quicker Pro?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> > To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >
> > Johnny,
> >
> > I haven't heard from you in a week, and still no pump from you.
> > Are we OK?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> > To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:15:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >
> > Johnny,
> >
> > I don't want you to be stuck with a pump that doesn't work. Do you
> > want to re-trade?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> > To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:52:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >
> > Got the pump today.  I sent your pump out yesterday. I have been
> > pretty sick and fell behind in everything but lying in bed.  At that
> > task I excelled.  Hope it works out good for you.  The pump actually
> > is a notch too big.  The whole thing confuses me. I tried a med and it
> > was too small but a large is too big.  I just can't make sense of it.
> >
> > Johnny
> >
> >
> > On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Joe Ramey wrote:
> >
> >> Johnny,
> >>
> >> Haven't heard from you for over a week. Have you received my pump?
> >> Nothing here yet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:33:39 PM
> >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>
> >> Johnny,
> >>
> >> Thursday, I shipped your Blackburn pump from Minturn Colorado, a
> >> little town in the center of the state. We were on our way to climb
> >> Mt Massive
> >>
> http://www.14ers.com/photos/peakphoto.php?peak=Mt.+Massive&large=1&photo=32421&start=25
> >>
> >> I expect the pump to arrive there Wed +/- 1 day.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:12:17 PM
> >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>
> >> I built a triangulated box for it tonight, so I will definitely ship
> >> it Thursday. Long pumps are a pain to ship!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:56:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>
> >>
> >> I plan to ship it tomorrow, but I will confirm.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:54:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>
> >> Sure.
> >>
> >> Let me know your address and I will get it all packed up. Let me know
> >> when it ships.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Johnny
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Joe Ramey wrote:
> >>
> >>> Johnny, we didn't get away Wednesday as planned.
> >>> Wanna trade?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >>> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:28:03 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>>
> >>> Shoot me an email on Monday when you get back.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Johnny
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Joe Ramey wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I know I pumped up a tire when I first got the pump to check it
> >>>> out.
> >>>> Otherwise I believe it is unused, or at least very little used. It
> >>>> was carried on a bike for the better part of a year, then has been
> >>>> sitting in the garage for ~3 years?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >>>> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 4:33:06 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>>>
> >>>> That sounds like it would work.  Let me know the age and condition
> >>>> and
> >>>> maybe we can work something out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Johnny
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 9, 2009, at 12:31 AM, Joe Ramey wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Johnny,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I compressed the pump spring fully to 20.5 inches or ~52cm. So it
> >>>>> will work on your bike.
> >>>>> Well, measure inside to inside of your seat-head tube and make
> >>>>> sure
> >>>>> it is >20.5 inches.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let me know what you decide
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net>
> >>>>> To: Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:15:25 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Definitely interested.  My top tube is around 55 I think.  Would
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> think this would work?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Johnny
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Mojo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Johnny,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a silver Blackburn frame fit FP-1L pump that I would like
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> trade for your Quicker Pro. The Blackburn fits my 57-61cm top
> >>>>>> tube
> >>>>>> lengths, probably more. It does do a low rattle thing when I ride
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> it. Maybe your karma is quieter than mine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Problem: I am going camping early tommorrow and won't be back
> >>>>>> until
> >>>>>> Sunday. So I couldn't mail this pump until Monday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let me know if you are interested.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 7:39 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Forgot the link to show what the heck it is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.velo-orange.com/quickerpropump.html
>
>
> On Oct 9, 7:52 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > He does not need to "out" anyone as it is me that he is talking about.
> > I have done deals with other people on here and I think they will let
> > you know I have had no issues.  Also if anyone cares to know my ebay
> > ID is dahlia11 and I have close to 500 feedbacks and it is 100%
> > positive. I do not scam people and I most definitely would not do it
> > on a small pump exchange.
> >
> > We agreed to an exchange, I sent out mine and he sent out his.  I got
> > his and after awhile he emailed and said he did not get mine.  I told
> > him at that time I would send his back as it didn't fit anyway.  he
> > expressed interest in trying to find a way to keep my pump so I
> > figured I would hold off on sending his back to see if it would
> > eventually arrive.
> >
> > I never heard back so I figured he got it.  Then I got an email saying
> > he was going to call me out as a scammer.  I got this email AFTER he
> > apparently came here and started to make the situation sound bad.  He
> > told me that he sent emails inbetween but I never got them.  His
> > emails look like they come from two different email clients. I have
> > looked in my junk and trash folders and see no record of them.
> > Regardless I have answered every email I got from him.
> >
> > My wife stuck his pump in the mail today and it was sent with a
> > signature required.  He can keep my pump if it ever shows up I don't
> > really care.
> >
> > The bottom line is he is coming here making the transaction sound bad
> > on my end but in the end I am out double shipping and a pump.
> >
> > I felt I did what I could in the situation and dealt with every email
> > that was sent to me. I feel bad that he feels scammed but I was honest
> > throughout.
> >
>


-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
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