On 11/25/2014 07:51 PM, Goshen Peter wrote:
don't some of them attach to the stem? or am I mistaken?

Some handlebar bags attach to the stem.  Porteur racks do not.

There's a huge difference between the two concepts: no reasonable person would put > 5 kg in a handlebar bag even with the best possible setup (and that's a rack low down and a decaleur at the top of the bag), and a bag mounted to the handlebars with a klickfix type device wouldn't be suitable for anything near that much load.

I just know front loads on my Rivendells was horrible for flop and handling.

Indeed, exactly what you'd expect, given the geometry.


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