Paul Racers are available as braze-on only (to be mounted on a fork with dedicated braze-ons), or the bolt-on version (which I have) which has a bridge between the arms to mount to the standard brake hole.
The only old centerpull bike I've owned had MAFAC Racers, which were excellent with new Kool-stop pads. You could find a vintage bike with MAFACs and use them for the cheap-yet-stylish solution. I have no direct experience with DC 750s, old or new. They definitely have better fender clearance than R559s, but I can't attest to their stopping power. They would fit perfectly, though, where the R559s might be tricky with 650x42 tires and fenders. Saluki and 650b AHH have the same brake reach (and are basically identical, though I'm sure there have been slight tweaks to the AHH design over the ensuing years). All rim brakes are improved with Kool-stops (excepting those brakes for silly carbon braking surfaces). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Doug Williams <salg...@minbaritm.com> wrote: > Thanks for all the input, everybody! I see different versions of the Paul > Racer brakes. Just to be clear, we are talking about the version that would > slap right on the Hilsen without additional braze-on's or frame mods, > correct? > > Still a chunk of change, to be sure. Dia Compe 750's...hmmm....Good for a > Saluki, they say. A 58 cm 650b Hilsen is nothing but a Saluki with a > stealth paint job. What does everybody think? Are Dia Compe 750's better > than the Tektro R559's for a Saluki? I was planning on running 42 mm > tires and P50 longboards so they seem to fit the bill. I'll have to talk > to Riv about this. > > Doug > > On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 11:39:18 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> I agree 100% with Tim. Riv setup will be great. They will tell you that >> good basic cables and housing, set up properly, cannot be significantly >> improved upon. KoolStop Salmons can slide in quickly and will be >> grabbier. Paul Racers are much stoppier stoppers. Some people gripe that >> they are too stoppy. >> >> The only thing I'll add is you could go Dia Compe 750s. >> >> Bill >> who-owns-a-58cm-650B-Hilsen-with-Silver-Caliper-Brakes-with-Kool-Stop-salmons >> Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 10:51:20 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: >>> >>> Kool-Stop pads are a significant improvement over the stock Tektro >>> ones. Good, clean, frictionless brake housings and cables would help as >>> well. >>> >>> I found Paul Racers to be a big improvement over Tektros, both in >>> performance and fender clearance. But then, I got them for maybe 60% of >>> retail from a list member here. Their retail price is hard to swallow, but >>> they are great brakes. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Doug Williams <sal...@minbaritm.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I ordered a 58cm 650b Homer Hilsen on December 30th to take advantage >>>> of the coupon. So now I am just biding my time waiting for the frame and >>>> selecting components. Actually, most of the selection is done and I ordered >>>> virtually all the parts…but I could always still tweak things. For one >>>> thing, I haven’t yet ordered the wheelset. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I test rode several bikes before I settled on the 650b Homer >>>> with albatross bars. Very nice! The one thing that could use a little >>>> improvement on the bikes that I test rode is the Tektro R559 brakes. Don’t >>>> get me wrong...nothing is really wrong with them and they were certainly >>>> adequate. But I thought they were just a little slow in stopping the bike. >>>> Perhaps I’m spoiled by the disk brakes on my other bike but I have no >>>> desire for disk brakes on a road bike or country bike. >>>> >>>> I have no doubt that RBW will setup and adjust the brakes for optimal >>>> performance. But I was wondering what other tweaks I could use to improve >>>> the R559 performance. Careful rim selection comes to mind, and I plan to >>>> discuss that with Rich. What about compressionless brake housing? Or what >>>> about Kool Stop or Yokozuna Brake Pads? Would either of these make any real >>>> difference or would I just be (pardon the pun) spinning my wheels? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Doug Williams >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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