The only thing I dislike about my Atlantis is that it doesn't have a double
top tube.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I own a 56cm Rivendell with a second top tube.  Brewster Fong thinks my
> bicycle is stupid and worthy of ridicule.  I think my bicycle is beautiful
> and I love riding it.
>
> My Bomba
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/8474652710/in/set-72157632769612752>
>
> Brewster Fong thinks it is wrong for Grant to insult carbon fiber, but he
> doesn't mind insulting my bike.  I get it!  Brewster Fong says "whatever
> gets you riding!", but obviously doesn't really mean it.  I really mean
> it.  If you love your bike, that's awesome!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:46:43 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:15:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/25/2015 05:39 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>> > Now, this is nothing but anedotal and just one example, but for my
>>> > buddy, the right tool got him going! I don't care what it was made out
>>> > of, but the supposedly stiff, uncomfortable aluminum frame road bike
>>> > got him hooked and we love it!
>>>
>>> Some of those Alu Specialized road bikes have riding positions very
>>> similar to what GP was advocating back in 2002.  I know quite a few
>>> people who have them and like them a lot.  I think the Zerts inserts are
>>> pure placebo and the bikes would be better off with something wider than
>>> a 25mm tire, but for something you can just walk into a LBS and get for
>>> (by modern standards) relatively cheap money, there are lots worse bikes
>>> people could buy.
>>>
>>> Yes, it is not just Specialized, but all the biggies - Trek, C'dale and
>> Giant to name a few - now offer more "upright" riding position for all
>> their bikes.  For example, Trek sells its carbon bikes with a H1 fit.
>> That's the standard racing fit with low, low bars and super high saddles.
>> BUT, they also sell the same frames/bikes with a H2 fit that has higher
>> bars and a more upright riding position. In fact, this is how the
>> new 10.25lb Trek Emondo, or whatever it is called,  is being offered. Then
>> again, if you're really going to spend $15k for a bike, it better be
>> available in any position that you want!
>>
>> I believe the credit for this positioning goes to Grant and his famous
>> "raise dat stem" article that came out in the late 90s?!  Now, if we can
>> only do something about G's fetish with double top tubes (on a 56cm frame!)
>> and carbon bashing, we might have something....Good Luck!
>>
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