i think that the clem and sam are different enough in function/ride and 
similar enough in price that you should go with the one that suits your 
needs the most. if you dont think youll want to use it to go fast on roads, 
but want something sturdy with big comfortable tires, then clem all the 
way. budget hunqapillar gives a pretty good idea for how the clem feels, 
but one of less aggressively set up hunqapillars. ive never been on an 
appaloosa, but i would imagine that there are comparisons there as well.  


On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 4:56:49 PM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Someone convince me that the large Clem will fit me. I ride a 65cm 
> Redwood, the large Clem is a 59cm. After debating about what new bike I'd 
> like, I want something based around an Albatross bar. Seems like the Clem 
> is the thing, if it will be big enough. I'll give Riv a call tomorrow, but 
> just churning ideas around this evening.
> Are there specs posted anywhere? Or is it more of a just-trust-Riv sorta 
> thing?
> David
> Chicago
>

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