I will send you a color corrected photo. Meaning, I'll send you a close-up photo of the color next to the X-Rite Colorchecker Passport and a neutral gray card. This will allow you to figure out the best match if you have either a color corrected monitor or can get access to one. To be fair, while very similar, the color is still a bit different from the original color that is still on the original fork. Perhaps it was painted by Waterford originally when the frame was built, instead of by Rich @ D&D.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Rene. So that's the stock Atlantis color. If I have my customs > altered, I'll show the man your photos and ask him to get as close as he > can. > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:48 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, >> >> That is actually the standard Nitto S83 post I've always had. At one >> point, I considered getting the Nitto lugged septets that has extra >> setback, but since I was riding the Hunqapillar at that time and it won't >> take the 27.2 diameter seatpost, not to mention it's expensive, didn't. At >> the time I was also worried that it would put me too far back and years >> before, when I was riding my racing carbon bike, I had experimented with an >> extra setback post but found that while good for my hands, wasn't good for >> my knees. When I was reading about the Cambium and realized its rails >> allowed it to be pushed further back than the B17, I decided to give that a >> try. I'll let you know how it feels after more riding. >> >> In regards to the color, I so believe the that on both the Homer and the >> Atlantis Grant's original color is so superb, that while I decided to >> change the color on the Hunqapillar when I had it repainted with its new >> fork, I asked the painter to use the original Atlantis color. I felt it >> could not be improved. All we did, to personalize my frame was to add the >> downtube cream detail with the gold decal in the spirit of the classic >> steel frames. It's elegant and subdued, IMHO. :-) You can see a better >> detail here: http://tinyurl.com/of8x52w >> >> I don't know what the official name for the color is... >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Rene: I see you've got the Cambium quite far back on the post -- and >>> what a post that is! Who makes it? I've not seen one with so much setback >>> since the old -- what were they, SRs? >>> >>> At any rate, yes, counter-intuitively, getting your butt back takes >>> weight off your hands, or, it very often does. I'll be interested to hear >>> how the bike feels after you put some miles on it with this configuration. >>> >>> And that is a beautiful color. Is it the so-called "sage green"? I am >>> thinking of getting bits added to one or both of my Rivendell frames, which >>> will require a repaint; and I have to say that that color + cream is >>> delicious. >>> >>> Patrick Moore, running his original issue Flites *all* the way back on >>> the rails on high-setback, old Dura Ace posts. >>> >>> AKA Patrick Moore, who just had a wonderful, if short ride in the bosque >>> on his Fargo in between chores and getting home to get his daughter. >>> Seventy degrees!!!! in ABQ, NM. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 4:32 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> While debating if/when/how to downsize my bike collection, after >>>> collecting great feedback from this group, I was almost set on getting rid >>>> of the Atlantis first, since on its pros/cons list was that I'd never been >>>> really able to get comfortable on it, no matter how many handlebar >>>> configurations I'd tried. >>>> >>>> On the Hunqapillar, which I had been riding the most until I pretty >>>> much stopped riding about 2 years ago, earlier last year on a failed >>>> attempt to get back to riding, I decided to try a Cambium carved saddle >>>> since I had never managed to break-in the Brooks B17 or Berthoud saddles I >>>> had tried before. The Cambium proved to be a revelation in two aspects; >>>> first, it is more comfortable from the start than any of the other saddles, >>>> but most importantly and the reason for its revelation, is that its frame >>>> allows the saddle to be pushed further back than any of the other saddles I >>>> have, and that by itself allowed me to get overall more comfortable since >>>> it allowed my weight distribution to change so that there was less pressure >>>> on my hands. After discovering the Bosco family of bars, I had finally >>>> managed to get as comfortable as possible on the bike, but still had hand >>>> pain when riding. I tweaked the height and tried all available variations >>>> before finally going back to the original Bosco Bulmoose bars. From all my >>>> bikes, it was the most comfortable and also the one that could handle me >>>> easily with loads in addition to my heft (currently at 280+ lbs). >>>> >>>> So I decided that before making my final decision I was going to try >>>> using a Cambium on the Atlantis. With its low trail fork I had put Grand >>>> Bois Randonneur bars, but had hardly ridden it. I found the BG Randonneur >>>> bars to be more comfortable than the Noodle bars, but I still could not get >>>> entirely comfortable. I was using a 7cm Tallux stem with the bars quite >>>> high, but still felt I was too stretched forward and my hands still hurt. >>>> >>>> After doing quick "test" rides last week when I started the internal >>>> debate on downsizing, I realized that I had never tried riding the Atlantis >>>> with any upright bars other than the Albatross several years ago, which I >>>> absolutely did not like at that time. Still, a couple of years ago I had >>>> gotten several different bars from Compass Cycles and Velo Orange that I >>>> was going to use on the Betty Foy, but were still new waiting to be tried. >>>> So I quickly tested them on the Atlantis before deciding that the one that >>>> showed the most promise was the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées. It didn't hurt >>>> that aesthetically it also was a winner. I installed the Paul reverse >>>> levers I had before on the Hunqapillar which I found are great for road >>>> riding but not so much for rough dirt downhills since you have to exert a >>>> lot more pressure due to the geometry of the levers. I taped the bars with >>>> Cambium tape to match the saddle and rode it yesterday and today for one >>>> hour each time. >>>> >>>> I also decided to mount the Pass & Stow rack I had originally purchased >>>> for the Hunqapillar, which had since gotten a different configuration I >>>> liked better for S24O adventures (although I only did one with that >>>> configuration almost two years ago, (http://tinyurl.com/qb7rh4q). I >>>> was thinking of putting it for sale, but I also had a brand new Freight >>>> Baggage Porteur bag I had never used that I got because I didn't really >>>> like the Swift Porteur bag I had gotten initially. So I thought that since >>>> my main intent on the Atlantis was to give it one more chance as a short >>>> ride wanderer and commuter and I wanted to have a front bag so I could >>>> carry my camera and take photos easily, I might as well give both of these >>>> one last chance before putting them up for sale. >>>> >>>> I had never remounted the fenders on the bike, but decided that I >>>> wouldn't do that unless I decided to keep it since it's quite a bit of work >>>> installing metal fenders and the old ones didn't fit any longer (the new >>>> low trail fork doesn't have as wide a crown as the original one). >>>> >>>> Before this non-cycling 22 month hiatus, I had slowly been discovering, >>>> either by myself or by following the guidelines from Grant and folk at RBW, >>>> ways to remove the pain that had become synonymous with cycling for me. >>>> Even after discovering the Rivendell fit philosophy and getting my first >>>> Rivendell (the AHH), I still insisted on drop bars even if higher than the >>>> saddle, tried and discarded a number of bars for a number of reasons, >>>> persisted on riding clipless pedals and discovered really wide and awesome >>>> flat pedals (none of the Riv previous offerings had been able to remove the >>>> pain I'd get after a few minutes on my left foot due to a Morton's neuroma. >>>> I had finally managed to get rid of the neck/upper back pain and almost all >>>> of my foot pain, but the hand and butt pain persisted. >>>> >>>> Late last year, I discovered Altra running shoes ( >>>> http://www.altrarunning.com). I don't run, but I'm always interested >>>> in shoes with a wider toe box and these seemed perfect as a shoe to walk in >>>> with its zero rise, and they indeed worked well. Even with my flat wide >>>> pedals I had never been able to ride on flexible shoes/sandals without >>>> developing a lot of pain right away, but the combination of the more >>>> rearward position the Cambium saddle afforded, combined with the quick >>>> decision to do a ride on those shoes (Instinct 2.0) due to laziness and >>>> curiosity, resulted in the discovery that I could ride with no pain on my >>>> feet even with those flexible shoes. >>>> >>>> Still not the end of the story... Since the maximum tire width of the >>>> low trail fork on the Atlantis is 40mm, I had intended to try a pair of >>>> Barlow Pass 38mm tires which again, I had purchased two years ago but never >>>> mounted. Yesterday's ride was on the Marathon Racers I had last tried to >>>> compare with the Marathon Duremes I had, as I was looking for a go-faster >>>> tire. Last night I decided to switch to the Barlow Pass tires to compare >>>> (even though the Racers are supposed to be 40mm tires, on my Dyad rims they >>>> are 38mm as well) and see for myself if the hype was true or not. Today I >>>> rode them and what a difference they made. Yesterday, harsh ride... today, >>>> soft supple ride that felt like magic. I don't care about the speed, nor >>>> attempted to assess it, but both the handling and the comfort were hugely >>>> superior with that change alone. >>>> >>>> So in summary, the Atlantis reconfigured with the Cambium saddle and GB >>>> Elysées bars in addition to the Barlow Pass tires have entirely changed its >>>> ride, fit and comfort qualities for me. Will it be a keeper now? I'll be >>>> riding it for a month or so exclusively to get to know it better and >>>> decide. And also to "feel" what having it as an only bike feels like. At >>>> least I'm starting to ride again. That is always good. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your patience, if you got this far! Here is a picture of the >>>> Atlantis as I rode it this morning - *http://tinyurl.com/puahc7h >>>> <http://tinyurl.com/puahc7h>*. Fenders will likely be installed in the >>>> next couple of weeks. >>>> >>>> René >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >>> Other professional writing services. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >>> >>> ************************************* >>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a >>> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and >>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu >>> >>> *Kinei hos eromenon. 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